god i hate new metal.

[emperor_black]

Was chris Barnes the vocalist for CC back in 2001? Or did the corpsegrinder guy take over by then? I watched a CC show in San francisco and the vocals were so powerful, at times, it would just drown the drum sound. they kicked major ass that night.

[guitarsjb]

Cannibal Corpse rules.

YEAH!

[toejam]

Was chris Barnes the vocalist for CC back in 2001? Or did the corpsegrinder guy take over by then? I watched a CC show in San francisco and the vocals were so powerful, at times, it would just drown the drum sound. they kicked major ass that night.

Chris' last album with the band was The Bleeding in 1994. I believe he finished that tour and was fired due to being difficult to work with and musical differences. George "Corpsegrinder" Fisher has been their vocalist ever since.

[guitarsjb]

"Kill" has become a favorite. Death Walking Terror kicks ass.

[thetroy]

I think rhythms/groove is the thing that can unite different people. I've seen a lot of people from hip-hop etc. backround getting into rock... when the rock has some great grooves.

Hip-hop is popular because it has groove.

Kids don't like old school jazz because it swings... so people like Marcus Miller and John Scofield have replaced swing with strong backbeats and r'n'b/funk type of rhythms and tons of kids show up at their concerts

I guess I've just been listening to too much power metal but I for one don't like most of the "groovy" metal. I like fun melodies that stick in my head, not complex rhythms that make songs feel jerky and disjointed.

To me Tool is the most BOOOOORING band in the world. I'd rather listen to Backstreet Boys.

[wilkinsi]

*deleted*. accidental dual post.

[GodOfRhythm]

not complex rhythms that make songs feel jerky and disjointed.
.

You have a weird conception of 'groove'.

[wilkinsi]

I didn't know HBB was still on. I thought it got axed. Someone tell me which UK channel I would find it on please. Then I'll tell you whether or not I thought it sucked.

[Endrik]

I guess I've just been listening to too much power metal but I for one don't like most of the "groovy" metal. I like fun melodies that stick in my head, not complex rhythms that make songs feel jerky and disjointed.

To me Tool is the most BOOOOORING band in the world. I'd rather listen to Backstreet Boys.

dude, groove makes people dance

metal bands with groove... White Zombie, Pantera

rock bands with groove... Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, Van Halen

origins of groove... old motown-soul, funk

I've never heard a jerky and disjointed James Brown tune

[thetroy]

I hate white zombie and pantera with the exception of Cemetary Gates

Groove + Metal does not compute to me. It works in rock and other lighter stuff.

I don't want to dance to metal I want to listen to it or play it myself.

[cdwillis]

What are your favorite metal bands thetroy?

[thetroy]

Stuff with no groove =P

Newer stuff I like is all the euro shit Sonata Arctica, Twilightning, DragonForce, Nightwish (old singer), HammerFall, Stratovarius, etc.

I want to remember the melodies and sing along and play air guitar, not dance.

[Argos]

Groove isn't really synonymous with dancing. When I think groove even certain songs from heavier bands like Bloodbath come to mind. Some power metal bands have songs with some definite groove in them...Sonata Arctica - Don't Say a Word?

Groove just gets you moving, whether you're moshing or ballroom dancing.

[cdwillis]

Groove doesn't mean just dancing. Take for instance Pantera's Psycho Holiday. That song grooves like a motherfucker. It's a headbanging song if I've ever heard one.

[thetroy]

Psycho Holiday is an example of a song I really don't care for. After listening to it a few times the only thing that I remember from it is the really boring verse riff just playing the same note over and over. These metal bands that pay attention to rhythm usually do it at the expense of everything else.