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  • #91
    Originally posted by Bengal View Post
    I don't see anything fuzzy at all. It's a symbol. That's it. A symbol of a failed idea at the hands of murderers. I blame Stalin and his henchmen, not the symbol. I've always been like that though and I guess I'm in the minority...

    I can understand not liking it personally. Like I said, whatever baggage you bring to it is your problem. But to demand that he change it is what I don't understand. What happened to the idea of "Don't like it, turn the channel"? That concept is gone in the USA. A small and vocal minority can change everything for the masses. That is what I don't like about this country now. It didn't use to be that way...
    You're projecting the argument into ideas I never supported. I never suggested he remove, or change the avatar. I jumped into the fray when he decided to instruct me in a long winded post how much better the idealism of socialist experimentation is than self government in the form of a republic.
    Socialism has been tried many times, here in the colonial days of this country, and has failed miserably each time. The founders were well aware of these experiments and steered away from them.
    It's a pleasure to debate. And, I always say, it's a freedom cherished. You aren't likely to change my mind, or me to change yours. Liberalism is the idealism of youth. I was once that way. But have not lost my compassion.
    Success in this capitalist society has allowed me to help people more, in a direct way, than handing my money over to someone who would just use it to advance their own power.

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    • #92
      How the fuck does SPD have more posts then me in this thread, he must be winning the argument!

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Cygnus X1 View Post
        You're projecting the argument into ideas I never supported. I never suggested he remove, or change the avatar. I jumped into the fray when he decided to instruct me in a long winded post how much better the idealism of socialist experimentation is than self government in the form of a republic.
        Socialism has been tried many times, here in the colonial days of this country, and has failed miserably each time. The founders were well aware of these experiments and steered away from them.
        It's a pleasure to debate. And, I always say, it's a freedom cherished. You aren't likely to change my mind, or me to change yours. Liberalism is the idealism of youth. I was once that way. But have not lost my compassion.
        Success in this capitalist society has allowed me to help people more, in a direct way, than handing my money over to someone who would just use it to advance their own power.
        I never implied that you said anything about him changing it. But I also fail to see how this is a "liberal" issue like you keep bringing up. It's not that. But it seems that in this post and in others you have posted in, you bring it back to that. We get it, you're a conservative. Great. But every arguement doesn't always come down to conservative vs. liberal. Unless that's the only way you look at the world...
        I'm angry because you're stupid

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Cygnus X1 View Post
          I jumped into the fray when he decided to instruct me in a long winded post how much better the idealism of socialist experimentation is than self government in the form of a republic.
          The idealism is, yeah. Although, I never once said that anyone should switch to it, or instructed anyone to do anything. You make it sound so forceful!

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          • #95
            I, for the most part, support SPD.
            I engaged in a side debate with Bengal, as usual.
            You, Freyr, are little more than a troller.
            Complex idealogies are usually the result of not having a firm grip on one's own individual beliefs.

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            • #96
              Cygnus,
              You're an interesting guy, and a good debater. I do enjoy reading what you have to say, even if I don't agree with it. And that's not BS. I do mean it...

              Now, this liberal blowhard is going to "GASP" walk to work...
              I'm angry because you're stupid

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              • #97
                I eat paste.
                I feel my soul go cold... only the dead are smiling.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Cygnus X1 View Post
                  You, Freyr, are little more than a troller.
                  Complex idealogies are usually the result of not having a firm grip on one's own individual beliefs.
                  Uh huh.

                  This is a troll thread, no? Pretty sure everyone in here as been trolling to some degree, as well as yourself. It's fun sometimes, but it does not do just to label someone based upon a duo of threads.

                  As far as myself not having a grip on my beliefs... naw, got that one wrong mate. I'm comfortable enough in my own beliefs that I can argue someone elses. And yeah, see both sides.

                  ggnore

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                  • #99
                    All this because of alcohol!

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                    • Originally posted by Bengal View Post
                      Like I said, oh Narcissistic one, it's not all about you. It's the collective YOU I was using. I wasn't even responding to anything you said...

                      But that "get over yourself"? That was all for you...
                      I'm glad to see you agree with me now. I like it that your mature enough as a young lad to admit you are wrong.

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                      • Originally posted by toejam View Post
                        I eat paste.
                        This is my sandbox im not allowed to go into the deep end. this is where i met the leprecaun he tells me to burn things :ROTF: :ROTF:

                        you cant beat ralph
                        Say, I smell bacon.Does anyone else smell bacon?
                        Yeah, I definitely smell a pork product of some type.

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                        • Originally posted by Bengal View Post
                          Cygnus,
                          You're an interesting guy, and a good debater. I do enjoy reading what you have to say, even if I don't agree with it. And that's not BS. I do mean it...

                          Now, this liberal blowhard is going to "GASP" walk to work...
                          CYA, Bengal. I got dropped.
                          I don't label myself conservative, because I have as many issues with those
                          on the far right as I do on the far left.
                          +1 on the debate.

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                          • Originally posted by SouthPlatteDemon View Post
                            All this because of alcohol!
                            I should have been drinking...but I wasn't!

                            Oh, yes..South Carolina:
                            No retail hard liqour sales between 7PM and 9AM
                            No retail achohol sales on Sunday
                            Hard stuff is sold by state regulated "ABC" stores. The stores have large red dots displayed, for those who are not literate.
                            At least there is no "last call" law, bars can stay open 24 hrs, if they wish.
                            Oh, and liquor used to be served in those airline sized mini-bottles by law until last year, in the bars.

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                            • Cyg, many places here at the beach still serve the small bottles. I never quite understood the logic behind that but I guess maybe i'm not supposed to. I don't drink, but my wife (being the rebelious yankee that she is) allways asks why they are so behind in the times?

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                              • Oh yeah, I didn't answer the original question...

                                Any alcohol can be bought between the hours of 6am and 2am. Convience stores only carry beer and the like. Hard stuff can be bought at the grocery store. Bars close at 2am. Same rules on Sunday...

                                Edit: Places that really kill me are the places that don't allow beer sales in stores close to the interstate. Gotta discourage drunk driving and all. I think Missouri is like that...
                                Last edited by Bengal; 11-13-2007, 03:49 PM.
                                I'm angry because you're stupid

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