Rappers...Whassup in da hood?

[Endrik]

Check out the Roots....if you don't see any talent there something's wrong!

fuck yeah, Roots is better than most of the rock bands today...

and I perfer all that MTV hip-hop crap over today's rock music anyday...

I think real Rap died in the mid 90's and most of today's hip-hop is corporate BS but it isn't nearly as bad as rock right now...

but rock is dead??? I think rock is very popular in California.... you pretty much hear either rock or hip-hop there...

new talented bands don't get signed??? what the heck are you guys expecting... have you been outside lately... the industry is totally dead... labels are in debts... musicians don't earn anything anymore... playing in a rock'n'roll band is a hobby nothing more... that's the reality... no one is going to be the next Zeppelin anytime soon

too little rock bands in MTV or radio.... well most of the kids don't even listen music from TV or Radio anymore... that's not a problem... want to hear good music... go to a concert

and talent is relative... hip-hop has more to do with literature than music... writing poems requiers talent period... even if the subject is stupid... it doesn't matter if it's some douchebag with platiunum teeth or Shakespeare, it's still a skill to put words together so the poem would sound smooth and rhythmical

[dg]

Kids are gonna laugh at an older guy playing. That's what they do. It doesn't mean rock is dead. Read the comments on almost any old-school youtube video and you'll see kids saying how much they love the old stuff & wish they had been around for the good old days. This gives me hope that plenty of kids are being exposed to & influenced by quality music, and that the torch will be passed. My neighbors' kids are 14 & 17, play drums & guitar, and their favorite music is Zep, Rush, AC/DC, etc. They're starting to get pretty damn good, and I may invite 'em over to try out my Charvels soon. They might dig it, and they might think I'm just an old dumbass. I don't care as long as they keep rocking.

Also, as has been said many times in other threads, there is a ton of great music being made right now, but you have to dig for it. There are no major labels pushing it & you sure as hell won't find it on MTV, but it's out there.

[Argos]

Sorry, but I find that there can be a lot more emotion and true storytelling in a lot of hip hop than most other music.

This song is a great example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r0KpWMNxnM , the second part is the story of the artist's uncle in Vietnam. There is even some better, more mainstream stuff. Jay-Z's new album has some pretty powerful stories in it from his childhood.

[Bengal]

Someone posting a thread about "someone" snickering about an amp or something is very "fett-like". If you don't get it, just read a bunch of Fetts threads and you'll get it...

Newc,
I can understand some of what your saying but I just don't use blanket statements like that. Someone brought up The Roots. Great stuff there. You brought up Mary J. Blige. Sorry to disagree, but she can sing her ass off. Cristina Aguleria (sp) or those kinds may fall into the category you described but I don't think Blige does at all. Neither does Alicia Keys. That girl can sing her ass off too. So while most can fall into those categories, not all do...

I like the rap of the 80's and early 90's. "Low End Theory" by Tribe Called Quest is a great album. "The Cronic" from Dr. Dre is brilliant. Maybe not your thing. Cool. But there is tallent there, even if you can't see it...

[nsubulysses]

That junk they're turning out today is not music. It's not musical. It takes no investment of time or money to learn an instrument. All it takes is a handful of words that sound alike and reading a sequencer manual.

I wouldn't necessarily say that. Although recent rap mostly sucks, there is a lot that goes into trying to make good rap songs. Those drum machines don't program themselves....

Even then that's just the beat only. Mixing samples together so they don't sound like garbage isn't easy. I play mostly metal, and I play in a drum machine band. Listening to rap and hip hop has really helped me a lot to be more creative on drum machine rather than just having something that keeps the tempo of the music.

Also, two best ways to better your vocabulary:
1. Read lots of books
2. Listen to rap

[fett]

Someone posting a thread about "someone" snickering about an amp or something is very "fett-like". If you don't get it, just read a bunch of Fetts threads and you'll get it...

If I had a nickle for everytime someone uses "fett" as an example of whatever, I would be rich and a little tired of it.

[Bengal]

If the shoe fits...

[fett]

Well, Bengal, you do what you have to do. What else is there left to say?

[Bengal]

Well, Bengal, you do what you have to do. What else is there left to say?

Don't get pissed at me. I didn't make your rep. And I'm not the only one to make a comment like that. I've seen much, much worse...

[fett]

I'm not pissed. It just strikes me as ironic that those of you that don't like me spend so much time bringing up my name. If you don't like what I do, ignore me. It's really quite simple.

[Cygnus X1]

I'm not speaking from lack of experience, here. I've listened to TCQ, Fresh Prince was some funny stuff to me, all the way back to Grandmaster Flash.
Yeah Blige can sing, but who can tell, it all fits in a worn out formula. Rock is just as guilty, and country has become one of the worst for formula garbage.
My rant is more about the ones that have no clue, or inclination about music. The Rap hip hop that I've heard lately is an attitude in life I don't care for: "I got the shaft when I was born, so I'm getting what I can, even if it's not mine". At least the attitude of old metal was..."get off your ass and do something, the world is yours." A call to action, not a call to screw everyone in the process. Outside of the zillion "love songs", that is.
I know many more metal types that appreciate a much wider spectrum of music outside their own discipline. Classical, Jazz, Blues, etc.
Rap is a mind waster. It's close-minded, and it is not music.

[Bengal]

I'm not pissed. It just strikes me as ironic that those of you that don't like me spend so much time bringing up my name. If you don't like what I do, ignore me. It's really quite simple.

Fett,
Forgive me if I've given you the impression that I don't like you. Nothing could be further from the truth. I guess I may bust your balls a little bit but it's suppose to be all in fun. If it's coming off that I don't like you, I'm sorry for that. I enjoy reading your posts quite a bit. You're the most real person on here, I think. And I enjoy what you bring to the table. So I'm sorry if I come off hostile towards you. It's not my intent at all...

Besides, if I didn't like you I wouldn't read your posts. Then I would have no clue what is "fett-like" and what's not. So I guess just knowing shows some respect...

Cyg,
Rap is not music? Or is it just music you don't like???

[Cygnus X1]

It's rhyme set to backwash. It's not music, to me.

[Bengal]

It's rhyme set to backwash. It's not music, to me.

OK, the main part being "to you". I can understand that. I don't like the new rap either. Sounds like mush to me. But I do see the musical tallent in the genre. I just don't listen to it. Same with country for me. I can't stand country. Cash was ok but all others suck ass. To me. But Buck Owens can play. Roy Clark can play his ass off. I see the tallent, I just don't like the sound...

But the thing I do like about rap is it has no boundries. It really can do anything it wants. It can sample any form of music and they do. They take Metal Guitars and drum beats from Led Zepplin and bridge parts from classical and whatever. It really can cross all genres with it's sound. I don't know of any other form of music that can do that and get away with it...

[fett]

I kinda understand what rap and hip hop music used to be about. It's like the Blues in the '30's and '40's. It was about singing about the life you were living and putting to music where the singer/player had a release from the hell they were living. What we have today is so far away from that. And that is why, I chose to not listen to it.