Rappers...Whassup in da hood?

[Shibs]

Isn't this a forum for guitar players/lovers? Where is the guitar in rap? there may be some guitar use in rap, but lets face it.... rap is just a poor attempt at making money without having much talent. To name one rap artist that is trained either by a school or music teacher may be possible, but I challenge you to name more than 5! However.... in any other form of music.... Metal, Classical, country etc.... I challenge you to name 5 or more people that are trained either by a school or teachers to play the instrument of their choice, thats easy! My point is....rap is so easy that even someone without a high school education can make money doing it! Where is the talent?

[hippietim]

Anyone with a drum machine, a dictionary, and a few bullet wounds can be a rap "star".

Its a fucking insult to musicians.

Judging rap based on what gets popular radio airplay and stereotypes spewed in the press is about the same as deciding metal sucks because you heard Nickelback on the radio and believe the stereotypes spewed in the press about folks involved in metal.

And let's face it, most metal lyrics are crap. The stuff in the late 80's absolutely sucked and the so-called death lyrics today are just plain silly.

[Boxcar Willie 84]

the roots the roots the roots the roots

[clifffclaven]

Anyone with a drum machine, a dictionary, and a few bullet wounds can be a rap "star".

Its a fucking insult to musicians.

[Shibs]

I wouldn't necessarily say that. Although recent rap mostly sucks, there is a lot that goes into trying to make good rap songs. Those drum machines don't program themselves....

Even then that's just the beat only. Mixing samples together so they don't sound like garbage isn't easy. I play mostly metal, and I play in a drum machine band. Listening to rap and hip hop has really helped me a lot to be more creative on drum machine rather than just having something that keeps the tempo of the music.

Also, two best ways to better your vocabulary:
1. Read lots of books
2. Listen to rap

So anyone with the ability to run a register at McDonalds can be a "C"rap star? As far as the Mixing, they don't do it... they hire someone to do it! Listening to Rap improves you vocabulary? That's like saying eating shit improves the smell of your breath. Please!:ROTF:

[lerxstcat]

True but I'm a white boy like Steve Martin (you youngsters may not get that reference).

Unfortunately I know EXACTLY what you mean! Well, I loved the movie but it dates us, that's for sure!

[fett]

Based on your typing skills as they are now and the thought, you have bigger issues than worrying about little fett. Take care.

[sonicsamurai]

I'm glad you said that. Because, if I said that it would be be pointless.

no worries - not a fan of ppl making digs at others rite now

[hippietim]

You say "you white boys" like you aren't a white boy yourself! :ROTF:

True but I'm a white boy like Steve Martin (you youngsters may not get that reference).

[fett]

ur not having much luck lately fett yet i never see u layinto anyone....

I'm glad you said that. Because, if I said that it would be be pointless.

[Newc]

When NWA says "Kill Whitey", they're talkin 'bout me

Seriously, Rapper's Delight is still the only rap song I can stand. I had the 12" single back then, too, and learned every word of it.

I also enjoyed EnVogue's "Free Your Mind". I don't know if the instruments were sampled, but I liked the lyrics, the riff, and the groove.

However, I did not care for ToneLoc and his ripping off Van Halen because he was too stupid or lazy to learn how to play much less come up with his own riffs.

Sampling other people's stuff to use in your own "song" is definitely not ok. It's robbery: "I'm too stupid and lazy to learn how to play anything from Chopin, so I'm going to sample it and string some words over it and call it music like I worked for it".

There's a band called Lifeseeker who have a song featured in the Dead Rising video game, and the kids on the game forum are going nuts over it. It's some sort of Beastie Boys wannabe thing with the chorus riff to Rush's 'Passage To Bangkok' sampled into it. I don't care if Rush approved it, it's retarded.

And if it takes any amount of skill to trim a sample correctly, I must be destined for it, because I've never found it difficult, even with a simple delay pedal. Maybe I'm a natural God at it, or maybe it just doesn't take as much talent as you think.

Vocalizing about how hard life is in da hood while you're making enough money doing it to drive an Escalade but still living in da hood is absolutely retarded.
"This place sucks, and I'll probably die here, but it's my home and I ain't leaving". Seriously, you know how stupid that sounds? New Orleans sucked in 1989, and I split. The house I grew up in burned to the ground about a year or so later. Do I care? Hell no. Home is wherever my stuff is, whether it's Tennessee or Tina Turner's ass.

[sonicsamurai]

I'm not pissed. It just strikes me as ironic that those of you that don't like me spend so much time bringing up my name. If you don't like what I do, ignore me. It's really quite simple.

ur not having much luck lately fett yet i never see u layinto anyone....

[JetFixxxer]

Have you seen Newc? :ROTF:

[lerxstcat]

As for rap, dig deeper - there is more to it than what you white boys see on the shelves at Walmart (here's a hint - if it's being sold at Walmart it sucks) .

You say "you white boys" like you aren't a white boy yourself! :ROTF: But the Walmart comment holds true for a lot of genres of music, not just rap. Edited versions suck!

[lerxstcat]

Anybody remember what Ray Charles said when Johnny Carson asked him what he thought about rap?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BsiCt6TxhJs

I have quoted Ray on this subject numerous times. It seems to piss of rap fans for some reason... :ROTF:

Probably because they can't call Ray a racist when he says it....