Rappers...Whassup in da hood?

[hippietim]

What makes you say that it's the white boys bashing rap?

Have you seen Newc? :ROTF:

[JetFixxxer]

there is more to it than what you white boys see on the shelves at Walmart

What makes you say that it's the white boys bashing rap?

[hippietim]

Like all popular forms of music, Rap was fine until it got popular. The early Sugar Hill Gang and Grand Master Flash stuff is really great. They played instruments, they sang, and they had some great lyrics.

There are many examples of this pattern in pop music. Look at the 80's metal that so many here hold near and dear - by the end of that there was very little in the way of talent actually being utilized. And let's not forget that one of the least capable musicians in modern history took down the 80's in one punch (that'd be Kurt Cobain for you slow kids). Modern popular rap sucks just like 97% of the other popular music.

As for rap, dig deeper - there is more to it than what you white boys see on the shelves at Walmart (here's a hint - if it's being sold at Walmart it sucks) .

[JetFixxxer]

Ray Charles doing The Beatles... Lets see a rapper do it with the feeling..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=j8gJPAM_0y0

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wxedpfKMbrY

http://youtube.com/watch?v=22pS8rZWcE4 Let it be...

Ring of Fire http://youtube.com/watch?v=IhGZdSkX6IM

[scotty]

Anybody remember what Ray Charles said when Johnny Carson asked him what he thought about rap?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BsiCt6TxhJs

[JetFixxxer]

I think people are drawn to certain type of music just as we are drawn to the people of the opposite sex.

[Endrik]

rap is black man's punk

[fett]

I kinda understand what rap and hip hop music used to be about. It's like the Blues in the '30's and '40's. It was about singing about the life you were living and putting to music where the singer/player had a release from the hell they were living. What we have today is so far away from that. And that is why, I chose to not listen to it.

[Bengal]

It's rhyme set to backwash. It's not music, to me.

OK, the main part being "to you". I can understand that. I don't like the new rap either. Sounds like mush to me. But I do see the musical tallent in the genre. I just don't listen to it. Same with country for me. I can't stand country. Cash was ok but all others suck ass. To me. But Buck Owens can play. Roy Clark can play his ass off. I see the tallent, I just don't like the sound...

But the thing I do like about rap is it has no boundries. It really can do anything it wants. It can sample any form of music and they do. They take Metal Guitars and drum beats from Led Zepplin and bridge parts from classical and whatever. It really can cross all genres with it's sound. I don't know of any other form of music that can do that and get away with it...

[Cygnus X1]

It's rhyme set to backwash. It's not music, to me.

[Bengal]

I'm not pissed. It just strikes me as ironic that those of you that don't like me spend so much time bringing up my name. If you don't like what I do, ignore me. It's really quite simple.

Fett,
Forgive me if I've given you the impression that I don't like you. Nothing could be further from the truth. I guess I may bust your balls a little bit but it's suppose to be all in fun. If it's coming off that I don't like you, I'm sorry for that. I enjoy reading your posts quite a bit. You're the most real person on here, I think. And I enjoy what you bring to the table. So I'm sorry if I come off hostile towards you. It's not my intent at all...

Besides, if I didn't like you I wouldn't read your posts. Then I would have no clue what is "fett-like" and what's not. So I guess just knowing shows some respect...

Cyg,
Rap is not music? Or is it just music you don't like???

[Cygnus X1]

I'm not speaking from lack of experience, here. I've listened to TCQ, Fresh Prince was some funny stuff to me, all the way back to Grandmaster Flash.
Yeah Blige can sing, but who can tell, it all fits in a worn out formula. Rock is just as guilty, and country has become one of the worst for formula garbage.
My rant is more about the ones that have no clue, or inclination about music. The Rap hip hop that I've heard lately is an attitude in life I don't care for: "I got the shaft when I was born, so I'm getting what I can, even if it's not mine". At least the attitude of old metal was..."get off your ass and do something, the world is yours." A call to action, not a call to screw everyone in the process. Outside of the zillion "love songs", that is.
I know many more metal types that appreciate a much wider spectrum of music outside their own discipline. Classical, Jazz, Blues, etc.
Rap is a mind waster. It's close-minded, and it is not music.

[fett]

I'm not pissed. It just strikes me as ironic that those of you that don't like me spend so much time bringing up my name. If you don't like what I do, ignore me. It's really quite simple.

[Bengal]

Well, Bengal, you do what you have to do. What else is there left to say?

Don't get pissed at me. I didn't make your rep. And I'm not the only one to make a comment like that. I've seen much, much worse...

[fett]

Well, Bengal, you do what you have to do. What else is there left to say?