Rappers...Whassup in da hood?

[Bengal]

If the shoe fits...

[fett]

Someone posting a thread about "someone" snickering about an amp or something is very "fett-like". If you don't get it, just read a bunch of Fetts threads and you'll get it...

If I had a nickle for everytime someone uses "fett" as an example of whatever, I would be rich and a little tired of it.

[nsubulysses]

That junk they're turning out today is not music. It's not musical. It takes no investment of time or money to learn an instrument. All it takes is a handful of words that sound alike and reading a sequencer manual.

I wouldn't necessarily say that. Although recent rap mostly sucks, there is a lot that goes into trying to make good rap songs. Those drum machines don't program themselves....

Even then that's just the beat only. Mixing samples together so they don't sound like garbage isn't easy. I play mostly metal, and I play in a drum machine band. Listening to rap and hip hop has really helped me a lot to be more creative on drum machine rather than just having something that keeps the tempo of the music.

Also, two best ways to better your vocabulary:
1. Read lots of books
2. Listen to rap

[Bengal]

Someone posting a thread about "someone" snickering about an amp or something is very "fett-like". If you don't get it, just read a bunch of Fetts threads and you'll get it...

Newc,
I can understand some of what your saying but I just don't use blanket statements like that. Someone brought up The Roots. Great stuff there. You brought up Mary J. Blige. Sorry to disagree, but she can sing her ass off. Cristina Aguleria (sp) or those kinds may fall into the category you described but I don't think Blige does at all. Neither does Alicia Keys. That girl can sing her ass off too. So while most can fall into those categories, not all do...

I like the rap of the 80's and early 90's. "Low End Theory" by Tribe Called Quest is a great album. "The Cronic" from Dr. Dre is brilliant. Maybe not your thing. Cool. But there is tallent there, even if you can't see it...

[Argos]

Sorry, but I find that there can be a lot more emotion and true storytelling in a lot of hip hop than most other music.

This song is a great example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r0KpWMNxnM , the second part is the story of the artist's uncle in Vietnam. There is even some better, more mainstream stuff. Jay-Z's new album has some pretty powerful stories in it from his childhood.

[dg]

Kids are gonna laugh at an older guy playing. That's what they do. It doesn't mean rock is dead. Read the comments on almost any old-school youtube video and you'll see kids saying how much they love the old stuff & wish they had been around for the good old days. This gives me hope that plenty of kids are being exposed to & influenced by quality music, and that the torch will be passed. My neighbors' kids are 14 & 17, play drums & guitar, and their favorite music is Zep, Rush, AC/DC, etc. They're starting to get pretty damn good, and I may invite 'em over to try out my Charvels soon. They might dig it, and they might think I'm just an old dumbass. I don't care as long as they keep rocking.

Also, as has been said many times in other threads, there is a ton of great music being made right now, but you have to dig for it. There are no major labels pushing it & you sure as hell won't find it on MTV, but it's out there.

[Endrik]

Check out the Roots....if you don't see any talent there something's wrong!

fuck yeah, Roots is better than most of the rock bands today...

and I perfer all that MTV hip-hop crap over today's rock music anyday...

I think real Rap died in the mid 90's and most of today's hip-hop is corporate BS but it isn't nearly as bad as rock right now...

but rock is dead??? I think rock is very popular in California.... you pretty much hear either rock or hip-hop there...

new talented bands don't get signed??? what the heck are you guys expecting... have you been outside lately... the industry is totally dead... labels are in debts... musicians don't earn anything anymore... playing in a rock'n'roll band is a hobby nothing more... that's the reality... no one is going to be the next Zeppelin anytime soon

too little rock bands in MTV or radio.... well most of the kids don't even listen music from TV or Radio anymore... that's not a problem... want to hear good music... go to a concert

and talent is relative... hip-hop has more to do with literature than music... writing poems requiers talent period... even if the subject is stupid... it doesn't matter if it's some douchebag with platiunum teeth or Shakespeare, it's still a skill to put words together so the poem would sound smooth and rhythmical

[bonghits]

Aint nuthin' but a G thang...

[Boxcar Willie 84]

Check out the Roots....if you don't see any talent there something's wrong!

[fett]

Seems like we have another Fett on our hands here...


what does that mean?

Yeah. I resemble that remark. In fact, the other day I was thinking about all those people on TV. Who are they? And where did they all come from? While I don't like rap or hip hop or the way it is pandering to our yoots, I have to give them credit for doing what they are doing whether I like it or not. That's why God made remotes.

[Newc]

Closed-mindedness has absolutely nothing to do with it. I listen to a wide variety of styles of music - Big Band Swing, 50s Rock, 80s Metal, Classic Rock, Classical - I even like Supertramp, ELO, and Adam and the Ants. The only Country I can tolerate is Johnny Cash, though I did grow up listening to Loretta Lynn, Dolly Parton, Jim Reeves, Charley Pride, and Elvis (but since those remind me too much of my late mother, I don't listen to them anymore).
And I like 60s RnB as well.

That junk they're turning out today is not music. It's not musical. It takes no investment of time or money to learn an instrument. All it takes is a handful of words that sound alike and reading a sequencer manual.

Today's "RnB" is more about "WhoaaOOoooohh" and other fake "feeling" vocals.

Compare the Supremes to Destiny's Child. Compare Donna Summer to Mary J Blige.

Today's RnB "singing" is technical, not emotional. It's all about "as long as you hit these notes and sing in this key and throw in this "ooh baby" and a few "woowooWOOoo"s you're singing.

Maybe you noticed that you simply cannot get away with playing a scale and call it a solo? Same thing here. You cannot simply sing the notes of a scale and call it "singing". You have to have something behind it - some sort of humanity driving it, not just technical knowledge of theory and notes. Even the Classical masters knew this, which is why there are some who were simply better than others. Salieri was a great technical composer. He knew the scales, modes, and all that theory, but Mozart added emotion to it.

That's why you hear Mozart and not Salieri.

[jacksoncsplayer]

There's only one fett, and he kicks ass

[sonicsamurai]

Seems like we have another Fett on our hands here...


what does that mean?

[Bengal]

I'm not close minded like some here. I can see some tallent in it. It may not be my thing but to each his own. Don't like it, don't listen to it...

Seems like we have another Fett on our hands here...

[jacksoncsplayer]

I have 2 kids ages 23 and 18, they both listen to Maiden, Scorps, Dave era Van Halen, Bon era AC/DC, and all the other 80s jams I have around the house, so there's not much rap or hip hop round here. With that being said, I don't hate rap or ghetto, I just choose not to listen to it. There are a couple talented fellows out there but i would much rather listen to two guitars Harmonize than listen to a bunch of heavy bass rythms.