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Originally posted by Rich#6 View PostI think in the end the democrat ticket will be Hillary for President and Obama for VP. There is still lots of Bill love out there too, especially after 8 years of bush.
If the two run together they will win.
America is not ready for a black President yet, but IS ready for a woman, at this point because of the weakness of the GOP as much as for any other reason.
However, if Barack serves as Vice President, especially if they get two terms, I think by that point people probably would accept him if the Dems have done well by the country.
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I think in the end the democrat ticket will be Hillary for President and Obama for VP. There is still lots of Bill love out there too, especially after 8 years of bush.
If the two run together they will win.
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Originally posted by Boxcar Willie 84 View Posti dunno, maybe i am being cynical, but i try to never doubt people's ability to be underhandedly racist and sexist....i think a lot of americans would rather die before voting for a black man or a woman for president....then again maybe they just wont vote eh
I think Hillary can win, but Obama can not. People who voted against civil rights legislation are still alive and well - they will not stand for a black president. Women got the right to vote almost 90 years ago and it has been respected ever since - there were no "Jim Crow laws" keeping them from voting.
Besides - there are WAY more women in the country than there are blacks.
RE: the topic - Oprah will repel as many people as she converts so it doesn't matter what she does.
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If Oprah really wanted to show some strength, she should have entered the race herself. I'd take her over Hillary any day.
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i dunno, maybe i am being cynical, but i try to never doubt people's ability to be underhandedly racist and sexist....i think a lot of americans would rather die before voting for a black man or a woman for president....then again maybe they just wont vote eh
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Accept it, because one of two things are definitely going to happen.
Just my personal assessment based of the situation thus far.
Hilary or Obama will be the next United States President.
Republicans have absolutely nobody the country seems to be interested in at this point, that can change, but as of now, its all the Democrats making progress on the campaign trail.
I know America and myself included is ready for change, but I'm not too sure if America is ready for the change Hilary or Obama could bring.
It can't be much worse than it is right now.
At this point who knows?
I do believe the next elected President will be a Democrat.
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Y'all oughta be here, right in Columbia SC.
Center of Hurricane Oprah.
Local media isn't even worth watching.
She drew 33% of the anticipated crowd, in case
anyone's paying attention.
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Her TV audience is 4 million. Her speeches are all over the news channels. This is media at it's best?
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Originally posted by Mayday View PostShe has a much wider audience than 55+ white people. She has done a lot of good for charity etc. The problem with this whole thing is that people really need to learn to not only think for themselves. But educate themselves and vote for someone who matches their own beliefs.
I get a kick out of the lesser of 2 evils analogy because there will never truly be anyone who is lesser. The bottom line is that you want to vote fr the person who you think will serve your interests well ...
Originally posted by Mayday View PostGood luck
Now can someone please get all the candidates out of NH so we can go back to normal...
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She has a much wider audience than 55+ white people. She has done a lot of good for charity etc. The problem with this whole thing is that people really need to learn to not only think for themselves. But educate themselves and vote for someone who matches their own beliefs.
I get a kick out of the lesser of 2 evils analogy because there will never truly be anyone who is lesser. The bottom line is that you want to vote fr the person who you think will serve your interests well ...
Good luck
Now can someone please get all the candidates out of NH so we can go back to normal...
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I don't really think she'll have that much of an impact.
You've got Oprah on one side trying to make man-hating, feminist, money-hungry, festering bitches from hell out of our women on one side
And then you've got Martha Stewart who's basically brainwashing women to go back to the 50's and cook, clean and do the tidying up so the men can kick up their feet and enjoy a beer and some good home cooking. Wife in the kitchen, man in front of the TV.
And guess what, Martha's winning, which is anything but bad in my book.
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Oprah is a superficial commerco-whore as far as I'm concerned, but I don't like to judge people.
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