What killed Hair Metal?

[Axewielder]

Did I mention Unskinny Bop yet?

That tune sucked, but I think "Your Mama Don't Dance" sucked even harder.

[toejam]

I still don't know why it was called Hair "Metal" anyway. Most of those bands were not metal.

metal is a loose and constantly evolving term tho dude. there were no subgenres as such back then, it was all just hevay metal to people in those days. hell it wans't even called glam or hair metal back then - the terms came later.

Well, when I was a teenager in the '80s, metal, to me, was Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Mercyful Fate, Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, Exodus, Overkill, Anthrax, Testament, Overkill, Death, Obituary, Morbid Angel, heavy stuff like that. That's what I mostly gravitated towards.
I was also a big fan of Motley Crue, Dokken, Van Halen, Ratt, Ozzy and some others that were hair/glam (never really understood or cared for the whole makeup thing and looking like a chick), but I always considered them just rock/hard rock.

[marcus]

Also, the lyrics from those grunge bands were really good. I remember being like "wow, what is this song about?". Very dark and mysterious, and delivered by great vocalists. None of those Seattle bands sounded like each other, either.

The Melvins still blow me away. As for the lyrics, I still haven't figured out what any of their songs are about.

[marcus]

I say Theater of Pain was the beginning of the end

[Cygnus X1]

I liked Alice in Chains, does that count?

[marcus]

I liked Alice in Chains, does that count?

Count for what?

[442w30]

Also, the lyrics from those grunge bands were really good. I remember being like "wow, what is this song about?". Very dark and mysterious, and delivered by great vocalists. None of those Seattle bands sounded like each other, either.

The grunge "secret" of mystery is to take three dissimilar songs, interchange lines that make them seem to relate. You can even do it by writing a story and swapping either nouns or descriptors (adjectives/adverbs) to make it "deep" or nonsensical.

Then you have acheived great mystery. Try it! It's hilarious how well it works. You will have 14 year old zitty boys committing suicide over "your deep" lyrics.

[442w30]

Check it out:

Random thoughts:
I like saltine crackers with my cheese soup.

My dog is hairy, but he could bite everyone in the world.


Nothing to do + no friends = time, jumble sentences to get EMO/Grunge.

I like my saltine dog, just me and my cheese.

My hairy crackers bite everyone, I feel like eating the world.

Ooooh, so deep...

[Joe_Steeler]

hey you take that back!! cherry pie was an awesome record!! my fave is mr rainmaker!! tee hee.


but yes warrant needed better outfits

I just saw a show, over the weekend, on heavy metal, and the singer from Warrant said that if he had to write Cherry Pie of put a gun to his head he would've blown his head!!
The record Co. made them do it and to this day he's still holding a grudge.

[Axewielder]

The grunge "secret" of mystery is to take three dissimilar songs, interchange lines that make them seem to relate. You can even do it by writing a story and swapping either nouns or descriptors (adjectives/adverbs) to make it "deep" or nonsensical.

Man that's harsh! Ok you might write a post-grunge song that's as good as, say, Bush...but you're not going to create "Black" or "I Stay Away" that way, mister!

[tanpsi]

Alot of genres and styles just kind of automatically run the course as being the most popular, I think that was part of it.


Actually hair metal is becoming popular again among young boys, I know that because I watch videos of young boys all the time, wait a sec, that don't sound right. What I mean is alot of the new school 18 - 25 year old bmxers mention in particular Ratt and Motley Crue as stuff they like.

[Cygnus X1]

According to the lead singer of Warrant, "Cherry Pie", plus too many
"ballads" that all sounded the same killed hair metal.
That's why I refer to myself as an "old metal" fan.

May I quote myself, and someone else....
Joe Steeler?
Hell, how do I mutli quote, anyways?

The other one was that show was "Heavy:The Story of Metal",
mentioned in another previous post.

[Cygnus X1]

The best thing is, what is built from the ashes? Some teens now are hooking up with the old metal, including hair bands, and using today's chops to make it better. Someone will come along and blend it all together, the stunning chops of death metal connected with the addictive hooks of hair metal,and life will be good.

Mind if I quote myself another time? Sheesh. tanspi.

[blindmuddy]

Lack of substance killed hair (pop) metal, there were a few decent bands and quite a few great guitar players but for the most part the music sucked. And like everything else nothing seems to last too long, now if rap would just go away.

[VitaminG]

Unskinny Bop killed it all, for me.

I never could get that bass line down.....

color-blind table dancer.

great song title!