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That south park ep was classic. Couldn't have said it better myself. Especially the "this is what scientologists actually believe" sign that keeps flashing.
I have to go I think I've been posessed by the soul of a martian that's jumped out of a volcano or whatever it is these jokers believe in.
Cyg,
Get over yourself. This is not political by any means. Oh wait, everything is political to you. Well this should be right up your alley. As much as the right and religion are in bed together. Start a thread about it Cyg, we'll talk there...
I also don't see much difference between this and Christianity. Both made up. Both "control" people. No real difference...
To know how guys like Tom can think that way, you have to have as much money as he does. See, money breeds a different kind. When you get that stupid rich, it effects everything you do. How you think, what you feel, what you believe in. Everything. I know a few people with money, none like what Cruise has, and I shake my head on a daily basis hearing the shit that comes out of their mouth. They are so far removed from "normal" people like us, we can't even fathom what their thought process is...
So I stopped a long time ago. If he want's to make a video about his beliefs and spout out whatever he wants, thats cool with me. I don't have to believe it and I don't have to watch it...
The difference is theres an actual reference as to where this cult started, theres irrefutable evidence to extinguish this cult, but people just ignore it as lame and let it continue to grow power. They aren't as big as christianity, but they certainly are in the government systems because they have money! They use lawyers and scare tactics (and even murder) to continue the secracy. Part of becoming a member is to reveal all your sins and wrongdoings (largely rumored to include tom and johns homosexual/experimenting pasts) so they can blackmail you from leaving. And it gets far far worse, and its all documented by hubbard. It's to crush the persons very will to bother going up against scientologies seemingly endless barrage of harrasment. Documented tactic.
Also documented in an 82' penthouse? or some mag article was an interview with hubbard jr. google it and read it and see just what kind of guy hubbard was.
Yeah they're all cults, yes the right wing christian idealism combined with general conservatism makes a fucking horrible government, but christianity can also be positive for society. Scientology definitely can NOT.
Scientology is more like the cult of personality. If you want to be a personality, join the cult! Cruse is a fruitbag, plain and simple. He fits right in with the rest of the fruitbags in Scientology.
Rumor is that their kid was conceived with Hubbard's frozen sperm. I think Tom drank it though.
Scientology is a joke but the people that are deep into are a danger to themselves and the people around them. Maybe it sounds a little extreme but these quacks aren't to be taken lightly. Enlighten yourselves guys: www.xenu.net
I'm gonna eat your brains and gain your knowledge.
no they aren't to be taken lightly, and that's a good site he's got there. people that unbalanced and that adversarial to a normal way of life need to be monitored and limited in their influence.
they are smooth conmen and thugs and should not be allowed to have any tax exempt status.
the guitar players look damaged - they've been outcasts all their lives
Another difference is that if someone actually follows teachings of the main character from Christianity, you CAN make a better world - peace, love thy neighbor, forgiveness, do not kill, etc.
Hubbard, not so sure....at least from what Cruise was saying. He says he can help people and it's hard not to, etc...but I can't for the life of me figured out how he or any of them help, except for liberating peoples greenbacks.
Bingo! This is the real problem. All they talk about is helping people and how its hard not to. Yeah, John Travolta sits in his mansion staring out the window at his 747 as he ponders whether or not to invite Oprah over for dinner that night. Wow is that helping the world or what. Scientology is not a legal religion in England for a reason. They recognized it for the tax dodging money laundering business that it is. Hell, they own the city of Clearwater Florida and pay no taxes on any of it. Its exactly like the Catholic church way back when, using religion to cloak the need to keep power and wealth. The big difference is we are not a bunch of peasants who get scared every time theres lightening and need guidance with such things by a powerful leader. Its 2008 and that shit aint gonna fly. L. Ron was a Sci-fi writer. So He writes a story about about a dying planet whos peoples "souls" travel through space and just happen upon earth and inhabit human bodies. Now theyre just waiting for the big man to show up in a space ship to reclaim them and free them from their human host bodies. Thats the story folks. Thats what you get to read if reach the highest level and pay the mega bucks to read the sacred scrolls of scientology. Sounds like science fiction to me. But then so does most religion. Scientology is not the practice of dianetics like most people think, They use this to suck in the weak minded who then pay money to worship and before they realze it theyve been brainwashed into the religion and dont even know about the space man fairy story because 99% of them dont have the money to reach the level where you get to read that stuff. But in the mean time the cash keeps rolling in for Scientology. Yippee the U.S. govt. got fooled int giving tax free religeous status to scientology. Take that away and watch it crumble as all the mega buck, high profile people leave it.
Yeah he's nuts, and the religion is stupid, but nothing other than age separates this and any other religion.
The cool thing is Tom Cruise prolly thinks all our beliefs are just as crazy but yet his religon has got him a great career banging hot women and very wealthy where as my beliefs got me sitting her talking about him on an internet chat board. Who is laughing at who? I need to go cry now.
I keep the bible in a pool of blood
So that none of its lies can affect me
The cool thing is Tom Cruise prolly thinks all our beliefs are just as crazy but yet his religon has got him a great career banging hot women and very wealthy where as my beliefs got me sitting her talking about him on an internet chat board. Who is laughing at who? I need to go cry now.
Yeah, but he was already rich and banging hot chicks BEFORE he was a scientologist.
Hey, I don't like him, but I have nothing against him. As far as I'm concerned, he's entertainment. At least he's not annoying like Rosie O'Donnel, or hundreds of others I could mention.
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