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  • I've added it to my queue and will give it a watch Seventh, but I've found most film documentaries tend to promote a certain position rather than provide an unbiased source of information. And if you missed it, I've already noted I'm also not a fan of the evangelical propaganda machine. Do you feel the folks featured in that preview are representative of Christianity? I am not seeing that in the places I've lived (including Texas, a hotbed of evangelicalism) but maybe they are wherever you are located (and if so, my condolences!)

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    • I saw louis Theroux's program on Fred Phelps Christianity that annoyed me the funeral picketing, these fuckwads have no respect for others, I don't think them painting FAG lover on Diana Pictures a Good idea really Especially not if they brought those pictures to the UK...

      These people scared me but they are a minority, however I think Scientology through the power of litigation seem to be capable of a more dangerous type of control...

      Reading some of these stories scares the crap out of me...

      There are cults out there that need to be exposed, because they destroy people. The Church of Scientology is such a cult, to back up this strong claim I need to collect some of their secret literature. I want you to read it and make up your own mind.


      That's downright scary...

      I think some of these scientology tactic's make hitler seem like a nice guy to some extent's...

      I think i'm going to have to campaign against any scientologist activites in wales...

      This is a cult that I think should not be alowed to grow, I fear it has great potential to do major damage to society...

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      • I don't think that Tom Cruise, John Travolta or the others really believe in this crap. They probably just enjoy being in a different community and doing uber-weird stuff.That's it. You couldn't believe in Xenu and that stuff even if you forced yourself to. People easily believe in divine things and such, but it's really much more difficult for a religion to spread, if it contains of spaceships and is born in the 20th century.
        I wish my hair-color was EDS :/

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        • "Harmony Central users don't check their closets for Boogeyman, before sleep. They check for Vince Sansevere."

          Is that with or without fake charvels???

          And yeah I would think that the celeb scientologist are clueless...

          ORIGINAL BROADCAST DATE: Monday May 14, 2007 John Sweeney sets out to investigate Scientology and finds himself the target of PI’s, abuse and a massive smear campaign meant to ruin his career…


          The Scientologist upper ech are creepy...

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          • Originally posted by mm2002 View Post
            I believe in the Easter Bunny and Santa Clause every bit as much as I believe in Jesus.
            Don't forget Zeus, Apollo, and the gang. They have just as much chance of being real as any of the others.

            A few hundred years from now, people will look back at this time period and wonder how a world of people that were capable of such advanced science, medicine, technology, etc. could have possibly still believed in the fairy tales of religion. And not only believed it, but believed it enough to kill each other over it!

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            • Originally posted by Big D View Post
              Don't forget Zeus, Apollo, and the gang. They have just as much chance of being real as any of the others.

              A few hundred years from now, people will look back at this time period and wonder how a world of people that were capable of such advanced science, medicine, technology, etc. could have possibly still believed in the fairy tales of religion. And not only believed it, but believed it enough to kill each other over it!
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              "There is nothing more fearful than imagination without taste" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

              "To be stupid, selfish and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost" - Gustave Flaubert

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              • Originally posted by Endrik View Post
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                I wish my hair-color was EDS :/

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                • Originally posted by Big D View Post
                  Don't forget Zeus, Apollo, and the gang. They have just as much chance of being real as any of the others.

                  A few hundred years from now, people will look back at this time period and wonder how a world of people that were capable of such advanced science, medicine, technology, etc. could have possibly still believed in the fairy tales of religion. And not only believed it, but believed it enough to kill each other over it!
                  What I can't understand is that the entire point of Christianity's teachings are as plain as day - tolerance, forgiveness, and a path to world peace - treat everyone fairly and if everyone does that, the world is peaceful.

                  All of the "biblical noise" that says you have to stand on your head every third friday or tattoo JC on your forehead is just that - noise and a distraction from a simple message.

                  Similar enlightenment comes from others like Ghandi, most buddhist teachings, even folks like MLK was a real 20th century person with all of his misdeeds and imperfections well documented, but he inspired many people to take a more productive approach to gaining peace and equality. If it does come to pass that Christianity falls out of favor for the next "blip" in historical religions, I just hope that the crazies that don't get it don't get to write the encyclopedia entry that describes the religion.

                  Organized religion is the problem, not "Christian teachings" - just to clarify. I don't know for a fact anything in the bible is historically correct, though it's immaterial to what I get out of it. I know that reading certain stories in the bible can inspire you to look at your situation differently and be a better person.

                  The perversion of the message by religious groups that have to perpetuate your subscription to their services is what JC was railing about the entire time leading up to his death, yet that message is lost on most Christians and Christian bashers as it was on Jewish folks 2000 years ago, whether you believe the story or not, that's what it was about.
                  When you take a shower in space, you have to press the water onto your body to clean yourself, and then you gotta vacuum it off. - Ace Frehley

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                  • Originally posted by Big D View Post
                    Don't forget Zeus, Apollo, and the gang. They have just as much chance of being real as any of the others.

                    A few hundred years from now, people will look back at this time period and wonder how a world of people that were capable of such advanced science, medicine, technology, etc. could have possibly still believed in the fairy tales of religion. And not only believed it, but believed it enough to kill each other over it!
                    Absolutely well said !! I just hope it will be as you said and religion will die out in several years. I sincerely hope it won't go the other way and people start to get hung up on religion once again. People should stop believing in fairy tales. The world peace won't be achieved this way but we would have a lot less problems with religions gone.

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                    • Great post 442w30. I was raised in the church, but am somewhere between agnostic & atheist at this point. I think it would be hilarious to watch some of the fundamentalists leading the charge to shout down or even execute/assassinate the messiah if there ever is a second coming. His hippy message wouldn't mesh w/ their agenda at all.

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                      • I think the good messages the bible contains are completely overshadowed by all the crap. Read some of Aesops fables, and you basically get the same behaviour guidelines without all the contradictions, and all the nonsensical rubbish. Aesop didn't have to invent a magic wizard who was his own son to convey his ideas either. Beyond that, I think it's sad that people need a book to tell them what to do and what not to do.

                        You can actually sum it all up like this:
                        -Don't do anything to others that you wouldn't like to have done to yourself.
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                        • I think you make a good point, Zeeg, but I also think the fear of death plays a huge role in the appeal too. That promise of life after death vs eternity in hellfire gets 'em every time. I'm not afraid to die, and I believe I'm nothing more than maggot food when I'm done. I'll live on through my genes in my kids, the values I can hopefully pass on to them, and any good works I can do to help advance my society. That's it. I don't understand why people have to have more than that. Feudal peasants who had shit lives here on Earth, sure, I get them needing it to be pacified, but that's it.

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                          • Christianity is like a swimming pool, all the noise comes from the shallow end.
                            If a fat girl falls in the forest, and no one is there to see it, do the trees still laugh??

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                            • Originally posted by dg View Post
                              I think you make a good point, Zeeg, but I also think the fear of death plays a huge role in the appeal too. That promise of life after death vs eternity in hellfire gets 'em every time. I'm not afraid to die, and I believe I'm nothing more than maggot food when I'm done. I'll live on through my genes in my kids, the values I can hopefully pass on to them, and any good works I can do to help advance my society. That's it. I don't understand why people have to have more than that. Feudal peasants who had shit lives here on Earth, sure, I get them needing it to be pacified, but that's it.


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                              I wish my hair-color was EDS :/

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                              • Religion is for people who are afraid of going to hell, Spirituality is for those of us who have been there.

                                I don't think there's anything wrong with people having Faith in something, for some people it gets them through the difficult times in life. It's the pushy ones I tell to get fukked!

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