Eddie Van Halen, What Happened

[Endrik]

AINT SKEERED!!!!! :ROTF:

Ed lost my respect long ago ....

We lose SRV and other guitar giants and this cockroach is still going. Guess there is some truth to that saying if a nuke hits only cockroaches will survive.

so SRV wasn't a junkie and alcoholic? ahaaaa

[Bengal]

Alex quit drinking and stayed quit.
Being an alcoholic is a choice.

Where did you get that information from?

It's not a "choice" to be an alcoholic.

Sure you "choose" to drink or not to drink. But unless you have that "gene", "deformity", "disease" whatever you want to call it, you really have no idea.

[JacksonDean]

Where did you get that information from?

It's not a "choice" to be an alcoholic.

Sure you "choose" to drink or not to drink. But unless you have that "gene", "deformity", "disease" whatever you want to call it, you really have no idea.

Sure sure... let's just blame it on genes and absolve everyone of the responsibility.

[Bengal]

Sure sure... let's just blame it on genes and absolve everyone of the responsibility.

You really don't know what your talking about, do you?

You want to agrue this point, make another thread and you and I will go at it about this topic. One you don't know anything about.

Or are you just trolling. Yep, that's it.

Still wondering where the hell I was when I got to make that choice. Fuck. Must have been sick that day.

[JacksonDean]

You really don't know what your talking about, do you?

You want to agrue this point, make another thread and you and I will go at it about this topic. One you don't know anything about.

Or are you just trolling. Yep, that's it.

Still wondering where the hell I was when I got to make that choice. Fuck. Must have been sick that day.

I'm not arguing anything with you; you seem incapable of actual debate and resort to belittling and bullshit.

You acknowledged that you choose to drink or not; that's the choice. If it were genetics and/or deformity, Alex would be as helpless and as screwed up as Eddie.

He's not. He decided he was going to quit drinking and did.

[Bengal]

I'm not arguing anything with you; you seem incapable of actual debate and resort to belittling and bullshit.

You acknowledged that you choose to drink or not; that's the choice. If it were genetics and/or deformity, Alex would be as helpless and as screwed up as Eddie.

He's not. He decided he was going to quit drinking and did.

Oh, good one. Another Bengal hater steps up to the plate. I seem to atract one every day.

If you would go back and re-read what I said, I did say it was a choice to drink. But heres the kicker. Do you think Eddie wants to get so fucked up every day that he can't play onstage? Do you really think he's doing that on purpose? He's not, trust me on that one. Once an alcoholic starts drinking, they lose all self control when it comes to that drinking.

Did Alex quit on his own or did he have some help?

Sure it would be easier to say, "Fuck that guy, why can't he just stop drinking". Most people that don't have this problem say that. But the thing they don't undestand is it's not that easy for an alcoholic. Hopefully that's something you'll never understand.

But I see that you don't really know much on this issue. Cool. Hopefully you never will.

And as for the bullshit in your post. Save it for yourself or your friends, will ya? I have no desire to go at it with you. I see you do with me, but save it. You posted what you posted knowing it would get a response from me. If you don't like me, fine. I'm cool with that. But don't just start shit for the sake of starting shit. That's lame dude.

[JacksonDean]

Oh, good one. Another Bengal hater steps up to the plate. I seem to atract one every day.

If you would go back and re-read what I said, I did say it was a choice to drink. But heres the kicker. Do you think Eddie wants to get so fucked up every day that he can't play onstage? Do you really think he's doing that on purpose? He's not, trust me on that one. Once an alcoholic starts drinking, they lose all self control when it comes to that drinking.

Did Alex quit on his own or did he have some help?

Sure it would be easier to say, "Fuck that guy, why can't he just stop drinking". Most people that don't have this problem say that. But the thing they don't undestand is it's not that easy for an alcoholic. Hopefully that's something you'll never understand.

But I see that you don't really know much on this issue. Cool. Hopefully you never will.

And as for the bullshit in your post. Save it for yourself or your friends, will ya? I have no desire to go at it with you. I see you do with me, but save it. You posted what you posted knowing it would get a response from me. If you don't like me, fine. I'm cool with that. But don't just start shit for the sake of starting shit. That's lame dude.

Lack of self-control is a lack of discipline. If you know something is going to make you lose your self-control but do it anyway, you're undisciplined.

As for 'drawing you out,' get over yourself. You happened to be the one to make the comment; I responded with a differing view. I've already learned through observation that you simply attack anyone whose view is different than yours.

[Bengal]

Lack of self-control is a lack of discipline. If you know something is going to make you lose your self-control but do it anyway, you're undisciplined.

As for 'drawing you out,' get over yourself. You happened to be the one to make the comment; I responded with a differing view. I've already learned through observation that you simply attack anyone whose view is different than yours.

I challenged you on that view. That's it. What's with all this "attacking" bullshit. Is your skin that thin?

All I'm saying is that if you don't have the problem, you can say it's this or it's that but you don't really know. And you don't. It's like saying that PMS is just a self control issue. That's all. Nothing hormonal or anything like that. Just self control. How the hell would I know? I'm a male. Same thing when a non-alcoholic makes generalizations and assumptions without knowing anything about the issue. That's what you are doing. In your world, it is a self control issue. Fine. Live with it. Someday it might come back to bite you on the ass.

There, I offered up a different viewpoint too. I didn't attack at all. A noob really isn't worth that. That takes energy and I have none for you.

But I'm over it. Going at it with a noob. Sigh. I need some self control.

[nsubulysses]

Bengal stop arguing with everyone or all the trolls will come out and get you!

[Bengal]

Bengal stop arguing with everyone or all the trolls will come out and get you!

Point taken. I think you're right.

From now on it's only "+1", "Sweet", or "If it only had a Floyd" posts for me.

[nsubulysses]

Sweet

[Bengal]

Sweet

+1

[yard dawg]

so SRV wasn't a junkie and alcoholic? ahaaaa

SRV dealt with his addictions and got free. He wasnt a jackass. He didnt over charge his fans with high tix prices nor did he over charge for anything his name touched or might have touched. I never read anywhere of SRV screwing over a band member/friend by trying to remove him from the history of the band. Bottom line is EVH is a great musician but a cockroach as a person.


BTW for anyones 411. That 1st drink/drug you take is a CHOICE!!!!! Your genes dont make that choice for you. Addicts can get help but its a CHOICE!!! Addicts can be free from there problem but its a CHOICE!!!!.


One day you people who blame genetics on everything will see a child molester prove it was genetic and then what? Sorry but ED is a grown ass man and he needs to put on his big boy undies and get over himself. There are WAYYYYYYY too many places for him to get help and stay sober but he refuses to accept it.

[Endrik]

One day you people who blame genetics on everything will see a child molester prove it was genetic and then what? Sorry but ED is a grown ass man and he needs to put on his big boy undies and get over himself. There are WAYYYYYYY too many places for him to get help and stay sober but he refuses to accept it.

pedophilia is genetic but that doesn't mean that douchebag shouldn't be killed.... pretty much everything we do is based on our genes... that's why each person makes different choices... our genes makes us to do that... molecular biology ABC

[yard dawg]

pedophilia is genetic but that doesn't mean that douchebag shouldn't be killed.... pretty much everything we do is based on our genes... that's why each person makes different choices... our genes makes us to do that... molecular biology ABC

AHHHHHHHHH OooooooooooooooooooooooK
alrighty then.