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"Casa del Fuggem" Part 2 of The Legacy
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"Dear Dr. Bill,
I work with a woman who is about 5 feet tall and weighs close to 450 pounds and has more facial hair than ZZ Top." - Jack The Riffer
"OK, we can both have Ben..joint custody. I'll have him on the weekends. We could go out in my Cobra and give people the finger..weather permitting of course.." -Bill Z. Bub
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Wow Ben..that Daniel dude should have kept the true metal spirit alive with Judas Preist during Rob's absence! "Ripper" barely kept that throne warm..in hindsight..it was actually pretty cold, crappy and fuzzy. Daniel would have been the best chopice..even better than Ralph Scheepers. James Rivera is pretty good too. Joey Very told me they call him the Mexican Halford.
Guys, I've been kinda busy at home. Most people know I'm going thru some tuff times with my wife's health condition. Well, to add worry to injury..they found small growths on her cervix and in one of her boobies. She had her lil' boobys smooshed today with that mamogram(sp) test..but won't get the results in a week. She's going to get her tiny vajayjay looked again next week..she must drink 32 ox of water and not pee before the exam..oh boy.
She doesn't know this but ..I'm afraid!
I'm not a religious man..but any postive vibes you can send my way would be fuggin' awesome!"Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!
"Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.
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Well I don't know what this thread is all about but I think is about musical taste (or shit like that ).
So...have some of you guys been into folk or viking metal? Ensiferum, Eluveitie, Moonsorrow, Tyr and bands like that?
Hey Bill I got to ask you something (or someone who knows), WTF is the kind of metal is Witchery? I read death metal, I read thrash metal, I read gore metal () but I come to no conclusion.-Bruno
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Oh man Bill, that's so sad.
You'll be getting some positive, secular, non-denominational vibes from me. You know we're here for you if you need us.
Oh, and Metal_Reaper, I love me some Ensiferum (Well, more like anything with Jari in it). I may have to check out some of those other viking bands."Dear Dr. Bill,
I work with a woman who is about 5 feet tall and weighs close to 450 pounds and has more facial hair than ZZ Top." - Jack The Riffer
"OK, we can both have Ben..joint custody. I'll have him on the weekends. We could go out in my Cobra and give people the finger..weather permitting of course.." -Bill Z. Bub
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Oh I LOVE Witchery..I LOVE them!!! Well Jensen is from The Haunted.. The singer/members are out of the ashes of Satanic Slaughter. Sharlee is from Merciful Fate/Arch Enemy/Sinergy.
I've been doin' the "W" way before George Bush..since '98's "Dead & Restless.
I'd say their style is a mixed bag of all the player's projects combined. equal parts melodic DM, BM, thrash and Powermetal with their onging dead and willing theme."Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!
"Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.
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Hey Bill, I take 10 min to make a post so don't mind me.
Best of luck to you and your wife!
I love every styles that you mentioned above. Unholy wars is a gret song. I will hear the other songs from them soon...Last edited by metal_reaper; 09-08-2008, 07:02 PM.-Bruno
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Thanks guys..me and the missus were having old people sex! We did it, and did it, and did it, and I couldn't finish and I don't care. I know I'm gettin' old if I don't care..I don't even have blue balls..isn't that nuts?
We'll finish tomorrow.
Man, I was going to scribe my rant..but I was asked about amp stuff. Which is cool..but I spent my wad there. It was prolly from my sexual frustration and blueing of the balls. Look, is this a Peter North load or what?
Holy shit in a shoebox..this fuggin' shit was too big to cut and paste!!!!"Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!
"Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.
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OK, here it is..
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Wassup bro..hope your doing just fine..it sounds like it!
OK here goes..
Rudy is speaking gospel about the Uberschall being one of the sickest amp heads for metal. Weird that Rudy mentioned he uses about 50% of the gain on tap. I was jammin' some VH stuff with my kid today, and had the gain/bass backed off to about 11:00 to get it in the ballpark. It sounded good..actually "too good" for authentic Van Halen. The VH tone is what got me started with this shit. In all reality the Bogner's super organic tone and girth surpassed what I've been chasing up 'till I bought the Uber six years ago. The Uber is by far the best head I've ever played, heard and owned for my style. To be honest my tone is prolly my favorite tone. As much as I worship Jeff Loomis, Steve Stevens, George Lynch, Van Halen, Criss Oliva ect. I wouldn't trade my tone for theirs. I'd certainly like to play like them tho.
At the time I bought my Marshall rack JMP-1/JFX-1/9200 w-5881s/ in '96. I was running two 100wt Marshall JCM800 2210s in stereo into my four Marshall 1960B straight cabs. The tone I always chased was a hybrid of classic Van Halen and latter day Criss Oliva. After going thru countless Marshalls, five 5150s, two Soldanos, the first series Dual Recto, two Ampeg Lee Jackson VL-100s, a shitload of Randalls, a Mesa Boogie Mrk III, and trying lots of VHTs, DR Zs, and everything that crossed my path for years on end. I discovered my favorite tone was from my Marshall 2210s..it was a perfect mix of Van Oliva. I was set until I heard the new Marshall flagship in '96, which is my setup. I was instantly blown away like never before. It sounded like a refined and balanced version of my two beloved 2210s in stereo. I had to buy it immediately, I was so fuggin' sold!! I traded those two mint 2210s, my mint sacred G & L bass, my 1985 Tracy Lords Hustler, and some money for it..that day! I remember the 9200 was $1299, the JMP-1 was $699, and the JFX-1 was $499. I loved the way the entire package looked and sounded. I wasn't taking any chances mixing that setup with anything else. I wanted THAT sound so I bought that exact package and I've had THAT sound since. I think the JFX-1 has its place in the tone. I've heard JMP-1s/9200 with other FX units and it just wasn't the same...especially the EL34 version..STAY AWAY from those. If you heard the difference side by side..its a no fuggin' brainer!
OK now onto what's is better and why IMO! ALL amp "heads" I've ever owned seem to be fussy. From my 5150s to Marshalls to my Uberschall. There's a couple issues I have with heads. There is G spots with tone and various control knobs that completely fuck up whenever someone touches one or you bump a fucker. Once I nail my tone in..the slightest change fucks me up all up. It often seems I can't get it back to where it was. Another thing, heads are somewhat inconsistent. One day they sound fucking amazing and the next day like complet shit..and I never touch anything! Lots of human factors play into that tho..ear fatigue for expample. Like when your blasing the stereo in your car and its sounds fuggin' cool. You get outta the car go into a store for a while, then return to your car ..turn the key and BAM the stereo blasts a barrage of incoherent white noise and static. But if you just listened to it for a minute your ears will prolly adjust and it'll prolly sound fine again. This is why I ALWAYS dial my amps at band levels..at least with drums. Then I don't touch the tone control at lower volume levels ..maybe just the presence if anything. You get alot of mids and highs just by loud volume levels..because that's where the guitars freqs are. Alot of players cut back the highs when tweaking their amps by themselves. But as soon as they add drums/cymbals in the mix..it's mud! I hear a common complaint of too much sizzle. Listen to Panama, Romeo Delight, Kiss of Death, Stand up and shout, Lay it down, Hall of the mountain king..is that too much sizzle? ..Not in that context..no.
I'm 100% against stomp boxes to get my tone. If I required a $50 fuzz box into a $3000 amp to get my tone..I fuggin' wasted $3000!
The Uberschall and Marshall are apples to oranges but they both have their place and neither of them are going anywhere. If I had to sell one of them..the Uber would go. No ifs, ands or butts. I love the Uber it is the "heaviest" tone I've ever heard. I've owned this amp for 6 years now and it prolly improved my playing because its pretty unforgiving. I must hit everything right on the money, and I must warm up until I get just the right touch. I do alot of "pings" and divebombs..its part of my style since I can remember..so I need that on command. The uber is touchy with that stuff..you have to hit 'em right on the money. Sometimes I spend a great deal of time tweaking. Once I start with tweaking the Uber..I could be at it for over an hour and still not have it where I want it. That's why I'm such a fuggin' prick whenever someone wants to play it..don't touch the knobs fucker! Hey, I know the amp better than them..I'll turn the fuggin' knobs! I milked it for all its worth..it won't sound better.
This is not the case with the Marshall. I would NOT be the player I am today without this Marshall. My tones are programmed into the JMP-1..they been there since '96. If I want to experiment..I have many patches to do that with. But I can go right back into my precise sound in a pinch..and its perfect every time. There is no knobs to bump, no G spots, and it doesn't sound like shit from one day to the next. I know what its going to sound like before I plug in. Its more Consistant than anything I've ever owned which allowed me hundreds if not thousands of hours for playing/writing and not tweaking/twiddlin' until blue in the fuggin' face! The Marshall is set and forget..plug in and play. That is so fuggin' nice.
People think the Marshall is exclusively '80's. that's not true at all. It can do classic Van Halen, Dokken, Ratt, Savatage ect much better than the Uberschall..it just sounds authentic. There is preamps that may have more gain but I don't care. They don't sound like a good Marshall..Only the JMP-1 does. It has the crsip clear definition, midrange cut and edge only a Marshall has. I don't play that much Van Halen these days..only when I'm bored fuggin' around. I play nothing but my brand of original metal..a hybrid of melodic death, black, power and thrash. That's all I play. These days my tone is prolly much closer to Death/Eidolon/Arch Enemy/Nevermore than Van Halen/Savatage..the Marshall covers that fine because that's what and how I play. I dialed the Marshall in for heavier shit and my kid loves it because it sounds tighter..which makes me play better..which make us sound kick ass. The Marshall makes me play my very best. He always preferred my Uber because of its mass and heavy awesomeness..but he was really diggin' the way the Marshall sounded, after hearing the Uber for a month straight ..and so was I.
There is nothing I can't do with the Marshall that I do with the Uberschall. I was playing my 7 string and I was doing some crazy Nevermore shit with some crazy squeals that I just can't coax from the Bogner..and I wasn't even trying..I was playing some riffs from Nevermore's "River Dragon" and I was making the original version actually sound kinda sedate!
So much of anything "brutal" or "heavy" is in the hands..it just how you play it. Touch is everything. As long as you have gear tailored and built specically around your playing. I love the way my Uber sounds..it doesn't get any heavier or oragnic than that..but the Marshall is tailored to my playing like no other amp I've played to date. Remember I've been playing with the same exact Marshall gear and patches for almost 13 years...and I'll be playing it for 13 more..no matter what amps will be out by then. I owe alot to my Marshall and it has treated me very well..maybe I'm lucky..maybe I just know how to fuggin' use it..or both.
So if you want my blessing on the JMP-1 and 9200. Make sure you hook up both sides with two cabs and makes sure they sound good and balance without any flubs or gliches and you should have no probs. This sounds silly..but hunt down a JFX-1..it was designed to go with that rig. I truly believe that is part of the equation. I use it just for a smidge of delay and sometime chorus. I like it better than my G Major. It doesn't do much at all like pitch effects..but for delays/chorus..it really warms up the Marshall big time. Oh, make sure its the 5881 version..I HATE the EL34 version..I mean HATE! EL34s are thin and nasily with hardly any bottom end at all..without the "glassy" highs I love so much.
Try it before you buy it..you gotta do that. I'll give you a a simple patch or two to try. If you don't like the way that sounds..then pass.
People talk about the build quality..I dunno. I know mine stays home, but Megadeth's, Iron Maiden's, Judas Priest's and Dragonforce's don't..amoung others. Those Marshall racks seen the world many many times over so..
If its a choice between the Marshall and the Uber..man that's hard for me to answer for you. The Marshall and I have 13 years a great history..so its weird y'know. If I didn't have that..hmmm I prolly take the Uber over it. It would depend on how I play while trying both for the first time. You need an amp to help you play your best..that's what matters most."Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!
"Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.
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Originally posted by horns666 View PostI'm 100% against stomp boxes to get my tone. If I required a $50 fuzz box into a $3000 amp to get my tone..I fuggin' wasted $3000!
When I passed that amp on to my son, I gave him the same advice. Funny thing is that he pulled tones from the amp that I didn't think were possible. Different ears, different ideas, different tones!"POOP"
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fuck..fuck..fuck..FUCK..FUCK ..FUCK!!!!!!
MY KID CAN KISS THE SACK HE CAME FROM!!!!!!!
"Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!
"Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.
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