DragonForce

[thetroy]

I'll go record me taking a dump on top of some tinfoil. That'll sound better than DF ever has.

In other words... "I'm full of shit."

[Endrik]

It's called "Happy Hardcore" for a fucking reason, you clown.

I've made electronic music for living and know the electronic music scene inside out in europe assclown happy hardcore my ass :ROTF::ROTF:

[MartinBarre]

"Rave" encompasses more than 'happy hardcore', A LOT more. This is pretty much the same as some ignorant clown saying "metal sucks, it all sounds the same", after having heard Necrophagist, Metallica, Dream Theater and Iron Maiden.

The apparent "rifts' between generations on this board is becoming apparent. The age of the dinosaurs is coming to an end, so to speak. I, for one, am glad there are bands that are pushing the boundaries of music and art as we currently know it.

Read the fucking thread. I was talking about Happy Hardcore all the way along, until I just ended up using "rave" as a generic term for the kind of stuff I was comparing DF to since most people don't know what "happy hardcore" means but DO know what "rave" is.
Like I say, read the fucking thread.

[GodOfRhythm]

I think that knowledge and talent would all be put to better use on real instruments.

Some electronic music is good or even very good, but it would all be better with real instruments.

That's your problem. A computer IS an instrument. A Keyboard IS an instrument. The range of instruments / tones / sounds they use to craft their musical landscape is mindblowing.

You'd be surprised how many electronic artists are awesome multi-instrumentalists.

[thetroy]

Peter Gabriel has done awfully a lot of programming... genius songwriter and musician

John Sykes did a lot of programming for his last album... amazing musician and songwriter

Jeff Beck has done many albums based on electronic music... one of the greatest guitarists ever

NIN doesn't have a single album without electronic music elements... amazing songwriting

JoJo Mayer basically only does electronic music these days... hottest drummer in the world right now

Marcus Miller has done a lot of programming for his last albums... one of the most amazing bassist ever

I can go on... but what's the point

You're proving my point. They couldn't play the stuff themselves and couldn't or wouldn't get anyone else to play it so they had a computer do it.

[MartinBarre]

I've made electronic music for living and know the electronic music scene inside out in europe assclown happy hardcore my ass :ROTF::ROTF:

So you're saying "happy hardcore" isn't happy?
Please explain.

[GodOfRhythm]

All I can say is, THANK GOD for open minds like Endrik on this board!

Btw, Endrik, that's awesome! Some close friends of mine have been hard at work to succesfully launch their own Elektro label. The parties have been mindblowingly awesome, they attracted some real talent!

[thetroy]

That's your problem. A computer IS an instrument. A Keyboard IS an instrument. The range of instruments / tones / sounds they use to craft their musical landscape is mindblowing.

You'd be surprised how many electronic artists are awesome multi-instrumentalists.

Playing a keyboard is OK. (Though it sounds worse unless it's not attempting to sound like another instrument)

Programming a computer to play the keyboard for you is a bunch of shit.

[Endrik]

You're proving my point. They couldn't play the stuff themselves and couldn't or wouldn't get anyone else to play it so they had a computer do it.

you are kidding right?

Marcus Miller couldn't get Poogie Bell (ridiculously good drummer) play 3 beats in a bar? :ROTF::ROTF:

[GodOfRhythm]

Playing a keyboard is OK. (Though it sounds worse unless it's not attempting to sound like another instrument)

Programming a computer to play the keyboard for you is a bunch of shit.

So close-minded versus electronic music. And that from someone from Detroit!

[thetroy]

Your mind is so open that you can't even understand that DragonForce is a legit band...

[thetroy]

So close-minded versus electronic music. And that from someone from Detroit!

uh yeah, DJ's have taken over the clubs. I am not a DJ. I am a guitarist. They "took my land" as it were. Hence, I don't like them.

[MartinBarre]

FUCK ELECTRONIC MUSIC!

It's all gay. Belgium is gay too. Crappy wee country. Never done nothin' for nobody other than foist crappy gay electronic music on the rest of us REAL civilised folks.

[Endrik]

So you're saying "happy hardcore" isn't happy?
Please explain.

explain what?

happy hardcore is a very small part of rave... most rave events have music wich is actually pretty depressing or trippy or very "cold" sounding

[GodOfRhythm]

Your mind is so open that you can't even understand that DragonForce is a legit band...

Dragonforce is a joke, nothing less. Gimmicky, one-dimensional and emotionless.


Anyone else notice the irony in someone preaching about how knowing how to play something on an instrument is the vastly superior choice, and that person defending DRAGONFORCE?