Filesharing - Give us a chance!

[GodOfRhythm]

Quick to chime in here: I agree with the original poster!

Furthermore: C'mon guys let's have some LARS ULRICH bashing!! Hypocrite? Noooooooooo!

[Bengal]

Get off your high horse...

I feel privledged to be in your company... you've never broken the law huh? You're funny. Hypocrites are my favorite.

You have quite the high opinion of yourself

I just find it funny that 90% of the time I see a post from you in a thread you are trying to argue with somebody.

That's what you call "messing with me"?

No thanks. Go mess with someone else. I don't have the time for it.

[Bengal]

Filesharing in general might be hurting artists and/or the industry. I don't know.

I do know that my own personal downloads are not hurting anyone (besides myself to a small extent since I'm taking on the risk of doing something illegal) because I wouldn't be buying the stuff anyway. My downloads are not "lost sales" at all.

Not that it really matters, but I do buy 1 or 2 CD's a year. The most recent 2 were Whitesnake's 'Good To Be Bad' and DragonForce's 'Inhuman Rampage' - both of which I've listened to at least 50 times.

So really, you can't prove it either.

But I go back to one of my first statements. If you were not going to buy it anyway, you don't deserve to have it. That's how I feel.

But I will state again, I give you props for standing up on the other side of the arguement.

[thetroy]

Troy,
And you are claiming that it doesn't. It only hurts the Evil Corporations.

So one could argue that you have to prove that point as well.

Filesharing in general might be hurting artists and/or the industry. I don't know.

I do know that my own personal downloads are not hurting anyone (besides myself to a small extent since I'm taking on the risk of doing something illegal) because I wouldn't be buying the stuff anyway. My downloads are not "lost sales" at all.

Not that it really matters, but I do buy 1 or 2 CD's a year. The most recent 2 were Whitesnake's 'Good To Be Bad' and DragonForce's 'Inhuman Rampage' - both of which I've listened to at least 50 times.

[Ralph E.]

Well, FWIW...

I just pre-ordered “Creations From A Chosen Path” from CDInzane.

Looking forward to getting it!

[khabibissell]

Sensitive? You attack me personally now want to back off and call me sensitive?

Wow.

Sorry, it doesn't go both ways with me.

I get how you feel, hell you might be justified. But now is not the time to take after me to prove a point. Now is the time to justify theft. That's what this thread is for.

Hell, you can start the "Bash Bengal" thread if you want. We'll go after each other there.

Dude, relax... I'm just messin with ya.

[Bengal]

Com'on now, lighten up. Who's the sensitive one now?

Sensitive? You attack me personally now want to back off and call me sensitive?

Wow.

Sorry, it doesn't go both ways with me.

I get how you feel, hell you might be justified. But now is not the time to take after me to prove a point. Now is the time to justify theft. That's what this thread is for.

Hell, you can start the "Bash Bengal" thread if you want. We'll go after each other there.

[khabibissell]

Ohhhhhhhh, good one.

Keep your personal feelings to yourself.

Or wait til I start that "Bash Bengal" thread.

Until then, zip it or lets talk about justifying theft.

Com'on now, lighten up. Who's the sensitive one now?

[Bengal]

You guys are the ones making claims about it hurting artists and killing the industry. The burden of proof is on he who makes the claim.

Troy,
And you are claiming that it doesn't. It only hurts the Evil Corporations.

So one could argue that you have to prove that point as well.

[Bengal]

...I HIGHLY doubt it

Ohhhhhhhh, good one.

Keep your personal feelings to yourself.

Or wait til I start that "Bash Bengal" thread.

Until then, zip it or lets talk about justifying theft.

I give Troy credit for taking the stance that he has. Some others have as well. I'm glad to see that. I will always challenge someone on something they have said. Deal with it.

But as much talk of stealing music as I have heard here over the years, I'm surprised more have not come to Troys side.

That must mean they really do have a problem with it?

I wonder.

[thetroy]

You guys are the ones making claims about it hurting artists and killing the industry. The burden of proof is on he who makes the claim.

[SEEGERMANY]

At least Troy is honestly sitting here and saying, "I'm stealing and I don't give a hot shit". Some of you are trying to turn theft into some sort of virtue.

That just about sums things up.

[shobet]

can you prove it made an artist money?


We could be here all night...

[thetroy]

I'm back. And yes, in discussions I often enjoy arguing from the viewpoint of a relativist. It's fun that way because it's nearly impossible to be proven wrong.

But really, who are any of us to decide what is right and wrong for the rest of the world?

Who are any of us to even declare that absolute truth even exists?

Filesharing is clearly illegal. I don't think anyone is arguing against that point. But saying filesharing is right or wrong - I would LOVE to see a proof either way from someone here.

Hell forget right and wrong. Let's see one of you prove that filesharing has caused more than 1 artist to lose money.

[khabibissell]

I'm off to do my 6pm show.

Maybe someone will steal it.

...I HIGHLY doubt it