Decapitation on Greyhound Bus

[Endrik]

The fact that folks who are anti-gun always cry bullshit on the idea of taking out the attacker is irritating. They think that because THEY would run, EVERYBODY would. That's just not so, if someone was equipped to deal with the killer.

no... it's the fear that the next fastest gun in the west, who thinks that just by owning a gun makes him an expert in crisis situations, is going to shoot innocent people around

Hell, if I were in that situation, no matter what I did I would still be scared shitless. If I were able, though, I would like to think that I would take action to try and save the first victim, or at least to make sure there were no more victims.

now that's more like it... most of us would like to believe that we could save the victims

but the attitude ala "I would have easily shot the bitch down and stood on his head while they take photos of me for the newspapers" is plain ridiculous.... ok, this is a little bit exaggerated but you get the point

a lot of people don't have control over themselves in certain situations... that's why many get easily into drug, alcohol or some other addictions... or can't stop eating greasy food or stop masturbating 7 times a day... nothing to do with extreme situation but that shows that people have a hard time controlling themselves even when there's no stabbing/shooting happening.

ask yourself what would you do if...

you are in a lower deck of a drowning ship

you are witnessing a rape

you are in a fancy party and see that 7 feet away from you a dame stumbles and drops a wine glass

now ask yourself have you been in that kind of situations before

if you haven't then think how do you really know what would happen
if you have... then what really did happen?

no one can be really sure what would happen... so promoting yourself as a Rambo in the internet is pretty silly

sometimes altruism can be de biggest act of egoism

[VitaminG]

The fact that folks who are anti-gun always cry bullshit on the idea of taking out the attacker is irritating. They think that because THEY would run, EVERYBODY would. That's just not so, if someone was equipped to deal with the killer.

The anti-gun folks also always assume that gu8n owners are lusting for blood and waiting for the opportunity to kill, and that is insulting as hell.

Realizing that the world is dangerous, and choosing to have a means of defending yourself, does not mean that you are a bloodthirsty redneck. But that is always the way gun owners are portrayed by those who are against guns. That shit gets old.

yer, people are ALWAYS make sweeping generalisations about those on the other side of the fence.

That's how things go on the JCF. Gun owners are ALWAYS portrayed as blood thirsty gungho louts. Christians are ALWAYS persecuted. Rsmacker is ALWAYS rubbing himself on the furniture, and wilkinsi ALWAYS looks a little bit scared about it.

[Bengal]

I appreciated the way you addressed things in that thread. You seem a bit more combative tonight, maybe I do too.

In this thread, and when threads like this come up, they follow a similar pattern of each side falling into defense of their beliefs as they relate to the topic.

The fact that folks who are anti-gun always cry bullshit on the idea of taking out the attacker is irritating. They think that because THEY would run, EVERYBODY would. That's just not so, if someone was equipped to deal with the killer.

The anti-gun folks also always assume that gu8n owners are lusting for blood and waiting for the opportunity to kill, and that is insulting as hell.

Realizing that the world is dangerous, and choosing to have a means of defending yourself, does not mean that you are a bloodthirsty redneck. But that is always the way gun owners are portrayed by those who are against guns. That shit gets old.

Hell, if I were in that situation, no matter what I did I would still be scared shitless. If I were able, though, I would like to think that I would take action to try and save the first victim, or at least to make sure there were no more victims.

But I really don't see how you weren't wrapping up Ted Nugent, Neanderthals, homosexuality and gun ownership into one big giant slur. That seems like slurrage personified, and the fact that you confirm your contempt for Ted just seems to confirm that it was ALL meant as slurrage.

But hey, maybe you just got carried away and said more than you meant to.

I hear what you are saying. And I agree with some of it.

Hell, I say more than I need to or should most of the time.

As for the slur, it really was at Ted. Now if someone identifies with Ted in my generalization about his personality, that's up to them. I'm not saying that's what you did, from your post above it just touched a nerve. It was somewhat loaded, what I said about him. He is a devisive figure. I really wasn't meaning to lump anyone here into what I said about him. I have no idea if you are a gun owner or not. I'm going to assume now that you are. But by saying that about Ted, I wasn't going after you or anyone else here who owns guns. It's your constitutional right to own a gun, I wouldn't want that taken away from us. Just because I'm not a fan doesn't mean I want constitutional rights taken away.

[toejam]

Carnival worker stabbed to death, decapitated and eaten by Sedate Chinaman on a Greyhound bus in Canada...

Pretty impressive.... Sigh...

.....wondering if the Carny tasted like chicken...

Would this be considered Chinese take-out?

[lerxstcat]

Well, I can see what you are saying and reading it the way you did, I can come to that conclusion as well.

Here is what I was trying to say. I'm sure if I walked up to Ted and called him a homosexual, he'd be as pissed as they come. Do I know that for sure? Nope but I can assume. Seeing as how he puts himself out there. The big he man and all and he's said some snide shit about gays so I'm pretty sure it would piss him off.

Now when I say it here in this forum, am I directing it at Ted or Teds fans or gay people? Well, it was more at Ted than anything. I have no clue who likes him and who doesn't. And for the life of me I can't understand why my opinion on the man would cause some to get offended. That is beyond me.

But you are right, I probably didn't word that the best. But a slur? Not really.

I see what you are trying to do. And remember, in that Gay Marraige thread I was pretty respectful to your beliefs and asked a few questions about it but never went after you for it. Unlike some. But I remember how that played out so I see where you are going.

EDIT: Also understand that the slurs I was meaing was the neanderthal redneck and masogynistic asshole. If he did finally come out of the closet, it would explain a whole hell of a lot.

I appreciated the way you addressed things in that thread. You seem a bit more combative tonight, maybe I do too.

In this thread, and when threads like this come up, they follow a similar pattern of each side falling into defense of their beliefs as they relate to the topic.

The fact that folks who are anti-gun always cry bullshit on the idea of taking out the attacker is irritating. They think that because THEY would run, EVERYBODY would. That's just not so, if someone was equipped to deal with the killer.

The anti-gun folks also always assume that gu8n owners are lusting for blood and waiting for the opportunity to kill, and that is insulting as hell.

Realizing that the world is dangerous, and choosing to have a means of defending yourself, does not mean that you are a bloodthirsty redneck. But that is always the way gun owners are portrayed by those who are against guns. That shit gets old.

Hell, if I were in that situation, no matter what I did I would still be scared shitless. If I were able, though, I would like to think that I would take action to try and save the first victim, or at least to make sure there were no more victims.

But I really don't see how you weren't wrapping up Ted Nugent, Neanderthals, homosexuality and gun ownership into one big giant slur. That seems like slurrage personified, and the fact that you confirm your contempt for Ted just seems to confirm that it was ALL meant as slurrage.

But hey, maybe you just got carried away and said more than you meant to.

[Bengal]

The flurry of posts you just made is funny, but this one is especially so!

So you're slurring Ted BY CALLING HIM A LATENT HOMOSEXUAL but slurring him by calling him gay doesn't ALSO slur gays? Explain exactly how you reached that conclusion?

The difference between your posts and Mark's is that he's goofing on posters like you who are serious, as proven by your post quoted above.

Well, I can see what you are saying and reading it the way you did, I can come to that conclusion as well.

Here is what I was trying to say. I'm sure if I walked up to Ted and called him a homosexual, he'd be as pissed as they come. Do I know that for sure? Nope but I can assume. Seeing as how he puts himself out there. The big he man and all and he's said some snide shit about gays so I'm pretty sure it would piss him off.

Now when I say it here in this forum, am I directing it at Ted or Teds fans or gay people? Well, it was more at Ted than anything. I have no clue who likes him and who doesn't. And for the life of me I can't understand why my opinion on the man would cause some to get offended. That is beyond me.

But you are right, I probably didn't word that the best. But a slur? Not really.

I see what you are trying to do. And remember, in that Gay Marraige thread I was pretty respectful to your beliefs and asked a few questions about it but never went after you for it. Unlike some. But I remember how that played out so I see where you are going.

EDIT: Also understand that the slurs I was meaing was the neanderthal redneck and masogynistic asshole. If he did finally come out of the closet, it would explain a whole hell of a lot.

[lerxstcat]

Oh, and thanks Phill_up for your support! Nice to see that some folks understand!

[lerxstcat]

And saying that Nugent has latent tendencies is not a slur to homosexuals but it sure is to Ted Nugent.

I could give a fuck if I slur Ted Nugent. Fuck that guy, he's a neanderthal redneck and life would be better if he just shut the fuck up.

The flurry of posts you just made is funny, but this one is especially so!

So you're slurring Ted BY CALLING HIM A LATENT HOMOSEXUAL but slurring him by calling him gay doesn't ALSO slur gays? Explain exactly how you reached that conclusion?

The difference between your posts and Mark's is that he's goofing on posters like you who are serious, as proven by your post quoted above.

[phill_up]

Why do they decide who lives and who dies? You can use a gun to take someone out of the equation without killing them. A shot to the lower leg below the knee or in the foot will encapacitate anyone. There are lots of places to shoot where the injury can be small but effective. As for everyone panicking. I dont believe that, as people react in one of three macro ways depending on how their brain functions. Some will panic, some will freeze in the spot, and some will be calm. Within those three macro groups, everyone will react slightly differently in their predetermined paths. To say everyone will react the same is ridiculous. Well unless the bus was filled with French people........

ACCETP2, You Rock!

[phill_up]

Contrary to popular belief, it is possible to stab someone in the neckj and miss the main artery or vein. Not likely, but since it is POSSIBLE, that justifies shooting the murderer.

Bear in mind f the guy's 30-40 feet away from you, and focused on stabbing someone else, it's not that great of a risk to pull out a handgun loaded with say 13 rounds like mine is, and shoot the guy from a safe distance. If he tries to rush you he has to come straight down a narrow aisle and I can put 5 rounds in him in short order. That doesn't take Clint Eastwood or Charles Bronson. It just takes someone who is willing to try and save a life.

Those of you who think that such a person would be exulting in shooting the murderer are way out of line. Maybe that's your deep-seated fantasy, but it isn't mine.

And if you think everybody is too chickenshit to do that, then again, maybe you're projecting your own inner feelings as well.

I will admit that if I did not have a gun on me I would not risk my life trying to stop the killer, unless it was someone I knew. But if I were armed with a gun, you bet I would try.

I'd rather serve a prison term for homicide than know I let someone die who I might have saved. The killer forfeits his life, at least if that's what it takes to stop him. If you can live with yourself in that scenario, good for you. I couldn't, if I could try to help and didn't do it.

And yes, I would shoot him dead even if the first victim was dead, to make sure he couldn't kill anyone else before the cops got there. I would have zero remorse for that.

Dude +1 Thank You!

[phill_up]

From what I've heard, the stabbing started in the guy's neck, so there's no chance of saving the guy.

And cut it out with the all the macho "I would have shot him" bullshit. We all know you'd be trying to get out of that bus as fast as possible.

And if you had shot him, I strongly believe you would be convicted of manslaughter/3rd degree murder. Nothing gives you the right to shoot another human being - everyone has the right to pursuit of happiness. Committing a crime does not forfeit that right.

you are kidding, right?

[Cleveland Metal]

.....wondering if the Carny tasted like chicken...

[Bengal]

Congrats.



I don't equate testicles with the handle of a gun. And it seems I missed an important hardware update, as my penis does not have a trigger like a pistol. It operates on nerve impulses, not by interconnected moving parts.

As for the "long barrel with a hole in the end that spews forth stuff", you do realize that a penis is used for creating life, and a firearm is used for ending life?
Polar opposites, is a term that comes to mind.



Neither is jealousy, which is most likely where these "overcompensating for a small penis" comments stem from.

Do you know someone who owns a Corvette, Ferrari, Lamborghini, or other car typically associated with "compensating" who has a small penis?
Has this ever been proven as fact, or is it simply jealousy on the part of the people who cannot afford these vehicles?

See, anyone can SAY something, and anyone can repeat what they've heard, but if there is no factual evidence to support the statement, it's just opinion.

OK, I'll go section by section.

1. Thanks.

2. As for the handle being the balls, a bit of a stretch but I made it. I have no problem with it. As for the trigger thing, I don't know. Sometimes it feels like someones pulling my trigger so I think that fits just fine.

3. Polar oposites? Yep, part of the fun of the comparison. I know a few friends that might say their life somewhat "died" when they had kids. Get that one? Goes either way.

4. Jealousy? Maybe. Not from me but for others maybe.

5. Don't know anyone who owns one of the cars you listed. I have never felt jealousy over a car. It's just a car.

6. Factual evidence? Are you serious? This whole fuckin' thread has been about opinion. Nice to see you finally got there. Of course it's opinion. I thought you had that figured out.

[VitaminG]

Congrats.

there's just not enough congratulations for those who are secure enough in their sexuality to not be concerned if someone else suggests that their sexual proclivity is other than what it is. Very thoughtful of you, Newc

I don't equate testicles with the handle of a gun. And it seems I missed an important hardware update, as my penis does not have a trigger like a pistol. It operates on nerve impulses, not by interconnected moving parts.

someone was paying attention in high school anatomy!

As for the "long barrel with a hole in the end that spews forth stuff", you do realize that a penis is used for creating life, and a firearm is used for ending life?

Get out! So what your saying is, you can't use a gun to impregnate a woman and create new life? I'm not altogether sure that that is correct.....

Neither is jealousy, which is most likely where these "overcompensating for a small penis" comments stem from.

Do you know someone who owns a Corvette, Ferrari, Lamborghini, or other car typically associated with "compensating" who has a small penis?
Has this ever been proven as fact, or is it simply jealousy on the part of the people who cannot afford these vehicles?

The "small penis" is just a metaphor. You've never encountered someone who was making up for deficiencies elsewhere in their life (lack of social skills, social standing, education, sporting ability, coolness, looks, hair, youth, a svelte figure, etc) by flashy around gaudy jewellery, or an expensive watch/car/suit or whatever? You've never seen the awkward doofus from high school who made it big in business, so now has the cash to return to the school reunion with a fancy car and expensive suit to try to regain some of that "cool" that he didn't have back at school?

Not everyone who owns a nice car (or gun, or guitar) is compensating. Not everyone who owns a bunch of them is either. Sometimes they are good looking, well-educated former sports stars that everyone likes, who have great personal and home lives who can afford to buy whatever they want. Nothing to compensate for.

But many people do buy these items specifically for the prestige that they afford them. To make themselves appear greater than they are.

See, anyone can SAY something, and anyone can repeat what they've heard, but if there is no factual evidence to support the statement, it's just opinion.

true dat. As witnessed in most posts in this forum. Although it was factual that your penis does function differently to a gun.

[StukaJU87]

I gave up on this thread long ago.