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Originally posted by RobRR View PostJust because they make money doesent mean its good.
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Originally posted by zeegler View Post
Go ahead and make your weak, irrelevant arguments, and in the end, it will still suck.
BTW if my argument was irrelevant, it must have had some relevance you responded..
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Originally posted by JetFixxxer View PostAnother thing why would someone buy their shit if they didn't like it.
Of course people will buy it. People buy all kinds of lame, weakass music every day. That's what top 40 is for. That doesn't mean it's any good. Metallica became successful, and popular, among people mainly with genre-specific tastes. In other words, metal fans. In fact, when Metallica became successful in the mainstream, they had already begun to dilute the sound that had endeared them to so many metal fans.
Do you seriously think that if an unheard of, unsigned band put out this record, that record execs would be banging on their doors, throwing money at them? Fuck no they wouldn't.
Go ahead and make your weak, irrelevant arguments, and in the end, it will still suck.
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Originally posted by Newc View Post. Get the old people out of the way because it's absolutely pathetic to see a 40+ year old grown man being angry about the same thing he was angry about when he was 20.
Plus I don't have the hair I had back when I was 20..
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Originally posted by MartinBarre1 View PostSo they're not angry any more - is that an excuse to write shit music? Iron Maiden, Motorhead, AC/DC, Judas Priest all made PLENTY cash from their music but I don't see them turning into fucking limp wristed homos (Rob may be a homo but his music is not limp wristed).
Anyway - from what I can gather Metallica ARE still angry. Have you seen "Some Kind of Monster"? Looks to me like, despite their money, none of them are very happy with life. So the "anger" thing doesn't really come into it at all, they simply can't write a good song any more - their money simply means they do not give a flying fuck about the fans who still buy this shit. Fuck 'em.
If you draw inspiration for your powerhouse riffage from anger, and then you lose your anger, you thereby lose your powerhouse riffage.
As well, with the endless stream of "Metallibabies" (as Mustaine once dubbed them), everyone and their mother is playing like Metallica used to play. To keep themselves from sounding like "everyone else", they changed.
AC/DC and ZZ Top can put out the same album year after year and it works because no one expects them to advance into more technical areas.
However, it's slightly different than Thrash. You can't put out the same E-to-F-to-E-to-Bb riffs and use the same tired old swept arpeggios for decades and stay fresh. Yngwie proves that. If you start at the top technically, you have nowhere to go but down, or you stay with what you're doing and coast into oblivion like so many others have done.
If you want to stay on top of the pile, you change direction. While they're not on top of the Thrash pile anymore, they are on top of a different pile. Regardless of whether anyone here considers it crap or not is irrelevant - they're on top and that's all that matters.
Going down with the ship and sticking to your guns is noble in battle, but suicide in music.
Anthrax's new album any good? Haven't heard anything about them in years, except that they're playing the same stuff they've been playing since 1985.
You know why Jeff beck only puts out an album every 5 years? Because he doesn't want to flood the market with similar-sounding albums.
I liked Black, but not as much as Justice, and I thought Justice was great. No, you can't hear Jason's bass. As I understand it, they recorded the whole album without bass tracks and brought him in after the fact.
I was never a fan of Metal Ballads like Nothing Else Matters or Unforgiven. The music wasn't bad, and neither were the lyrics, it was the vocal tone.
Testament's The Legacy from Souls of Black had the power behind the vocals all the way through that Unforgiven lacked, and needed.
But, I don't fault Metallica for jumping ship from Thrash to whatever it is they're calling whatever it is they do. Thrash is a young man's sport. Get the old people out of the way because it's absolutely pathetic to see a 40+ year old grown man being angry about the same thing he was angry about when he was 20.
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Originally posted by horns666 View PostYou better run..I'll be chasing you like Borat chased Azamat in that nice hotel!!!
Ya know..I also predict Britney's new album to be huge!
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Originally posted by MartinBarre1 View PostWell, although I hate "new" Metallica I must admit I love Kirk's early playing to fucking death. What he did on songs like Ktulu was just awe inspiring. Maybe he didn't have the technical skills of guys like Skolnick, but he was a better guitarist back then IMO than near enough anyone other than Murray/Smith.
We don't. Anthrax are effectively dead since their habit of selling out their singers finally caught up to them.
And Slayer? They suck nearly as bad as Metallica now.
Thank fuck for Megadeth though, UA was great!
Aaron
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Originally posted by JetFixxxer View PostHey Bessie you have St. Anger around your neck... Who says you can't comment on their music!!!
BTW Diocletian you're a little less of a wanker on the other forums..
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Originally posted by JetFixxxer View PostAnother thing why would someone buy their shit if they didn't like it.
2) Out of curiousity. Fans might not like what's been put out to the masses, but they may find a cut or two that meets their approval.
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Originally posted by MartinBarre1 View PostShut up ya fuckin' cock hole. Metallica sell millions so we're not allowed to comment on their "music"? Why come to a forum if you don't expect anyone to SAY anything, ya fuckin' bawbag?Hey Bessie you have St. Anger around your neck... Who says you can't comment on their music!!!
BTW Diocletian you're a little less of a wanker on the other forums..Last edited by JetFixxxer; 08-24-2008, 02:52 PM.
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Originally posted by JetFixxxer View PostHow many of you have a major record contract here? How many of you have made millions here off their record deals? How many of you hate Metallica's shitty new music and won't buy their next album... well that doesnt' matter because they will make millions off this Album also. They still have a record contract because they sell millions.. Another thing why would someone buy their shit if they didn't like it.
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You better run..I'll be chasing you like Borat chased Azamat in that nice hotel!!!
Ya know..I also predict Britney's new album to be huge!
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