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  • Originally posted by Aaronharmon View Post
    Shit I'm not asking them to top themselves. Even the greatest bands in history, of which Metallica is certainly one, release a turd or two along the way. I just wish that they would reclaim some semblance of their former glory.


    Quit chasing trends and start setting them again.

    That sums it up for me really...that's how I feel. Luckily there is alot of great metal out there..I can't keep up!
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    • Originally posted by Newc View Post
      No, seriously. I mean, once you've made a few million dollars from music, your whole perspective changes, so the things you were angry about (being poor, "the system", etc etc) are washed away by the sea of green, so what do you get angry about?

      Guns-n-Roses are the perfect example: Appetite For Destruction was a brutal album that was made by poor, angry, and hungry kids. They got rich from it. Stinkingly so.
      WHat happened? They were no longer poor and hungry, so they softened up.


      So Metallica don't view the world the same way they did at 18. They grew up. Where's the problem?

      Well, check this out.
      Ok, so i grew up not allowed to have metal albums or anything metal or "satanic" in the house, to the extreme my parents were totaly religious all that bla bla.
      My dad, he grew up in the 50's 60's, he likes oldies, as in the Original oldies
      Aretha Franklin to the Beattles to Ray Charles, Beach boys ect..all that.
      They always raided my room, and tore evereything apart to find any stuff i was stashing, once my dad found Powerslave and he listened to it, i got so chewed out lectured about (demons babies ect) lol And was grounded. Just one of many many examples of the conflicts i had with my folks.

      Anyway, fast forward to the other night, 25 some odd years later.
      I walk into my dads house, and he got a new system and huge tv and stuff, well i walk in, and he's cranking music, i think nothing of it, excpet i slowly start to realize what he is cranking.
      Is that....wtf, Is That Fucking Metallica?

      My old grey bearded dad, was cranking Metallica, i am still unsure of the long term affects this will have to my psychi, i think that my brain just went into um, ok whatever mode to guard itself from serious damage.

      Moral: i don't know, but, if my dad likes them, they must have really gotten soft




      I'll add that it wasn't just on the radio in passing, he actually bought the CD, and was rocking out to it.
      Last edited by Trem; 08-25-2008, 12:24 AM.

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      • ...man I have friends like you. Reminds me of Tenacious D's "The Pick of Destiny" Kickapoo intro..

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwQNE...eature=related

        My dad turned me onto Black Sabbath. So I turned him onto Opeth..the mellow one. He LOVES it!! So then I burned him "My arms your hearse" ..he couldn't believe that was the same band and couldn't listen to a minute of it. My pop was an old school 60's/70's biker guy..so he digs all the old cool stuff!
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        • AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

          holy shit that kid looks just like jack black, lol :ROTF::ROTF::ROTF:

          shit, i shoulda watched that movie when i was offered, now i gotta get it and check it out. :ROTF:

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          • Trem..I've seen that movie about a dozen times with my kid. Yeah man..you gotta check it out!
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            • This is a whole slippery slope for Metallica.

              James has said that he physically cannot pull off some of the old Metallica riffs. So coming up with something new that is just as fast and furious as old-school Metallica is kind of out of the question. Trying to maintain the status quo doesn't satisfy anyone's hunger for Metallica either.

              So what exactly is the right answer for Metallica? Should they just admit defeat and realize that they will never write an album like KEA, RtL, MoP, or AJFA and disband? By doing that they would be leaving a lot of money on the table.

              Honestly, the answer is exactly what they're doing. Continuing to write their music, record their albums, and - as I like to say - run it up the flag pole and see who salutes it. Some of us like it, some of us don't. But the true test as to whether they're doing something right is if sales of the albums and tours continue to either climb or to stay high.
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              • Originally posted by Tekky View Post
                This is a whole slippery slope for Metallica.

                James has said that he physically cannot pull off some of the old Metallica riffs.
                .

                Orly?

                Got proof of that? Cuz I've never heard anything close to what you're claiming there, and I've pretty much seen and heard it all.
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                • Originally posted by GodOfRhythm View Post
                  Orly?

                  Got proof of that? Cuz I've never heard anything close to what you're claiming there, and I've pretty much seen and heard it all.
                  Someone mentioned it to me last night that was in Some Kind of Monster. I haven't seen the whole thing, so if I'm wrong, my apologies.
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                  • Originally posted by Tekky View Post
                    Someone mentioned it to me last night that was in Some Kind of Monster.
                    It might have been contextual, be that as it may (and I know it wasn't your intention), it's pretty much bullshit. If there's one thing that hasn't declined it's James' guitarplaying.
                    You took too much, man. Too much. Too much.

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                    • Originally posted by GodOfRhythm View Post
                      It might have been contextual, be that as it may (and I know it wasn't your intention), it's pretty much bullshit. If there's one thing that hasn't declined it's James' guitarplaying.
                      Fine. Then I stand corrected. However, I believe the rest of my post is valid. It's a damned if they do, damned if they don't proposition for them.
                      Last edited by Tekky; 08-25-2008, 01:34 AM.
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                      • Originally posted by nhspike View Post
                        Is that a boner in your avatar?
                        Do you notice it's getting smaller?
                        Yes and it's the story of my life! Percy getting smaller and the six pack turning into a keg...
                        Fwopping, you know you want to!

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                        • Guys - no one's asking Metallica to play as fast as they did as kids.
                          All we want is some good heavy music, and we haven't got that since at least TBA. IMO the best songs Metallica have done in recent years have been stuff like Mama Said (is that right? I dont listen to the album much) and Low Man's Lyric - I actually think they're good songs. The heavier stuff they do is just shit, like they're not interested in being a heavy metal band any more.
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                          • Tool still rocks and their music evolves and stays good.

                            Metallica does not rock anymore and their music devolves to a crappier much simpler genre of craptastic!

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                            • Originally posted by GodOfRhythm View Post
                              It might have been contextual, be that as it may (and I know it wasn't your intention), it's pretty much bullshit. If there's one thing that hasn't declined it's James' guitarplaying.
                              I disagree, the last time I went to their concert, last month, they play master of puppet MUCH slower than in the disc, I think around 180 bpm, while the original record is 220 bpm, in order to "mask" this, they detune the instruments one step down.

                              This was true 10 years ago, you can listen that song played in S&M, it's clearly slower than in the 80s.
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                              • Originally posted by Cuthbert View Post
                                I disagree, the last time I went to their concert, last month, they play master of puppet MUCH slower than in the disc, I think around 180 bpm, while the original record is 220 bpm, in order to "mask" this, they detune the instruments one step down.

                                This was true 10 years ago, you can listen that song played in S&M, it's clearly slower than in the 80s.
                                Might have more to do with a certain Danish drummer than with one of the world's best rhythm guitarists.

                                Also, masking slower playing with LOWER tuning? Lastly, there's plenty of times where they play faster than on the record, even today, even the old stuff.
                                You took too much, man. Too much. Too much.

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