True metal vs trends

[Endrik]

when it comes to music, the two most important things ever to come out of Australia are AC/DC and Deanne Berry's appearance in this music video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIohJZ-rhyk

[VitaminG]

wow, thanks for that, E. You're going to so easily dismiss the efforts of Air Supply, Savage Garden, The Little River Band, The Easybeats, The Bee Gees?

That video typifies everything that is wrong with most popular music today. Don't bother coming up with anything new, it's much cheaper & easier to take someone else's and sample it for your own tune. But now, instead of sampling say, a chorus, they've distilled it down to just two words. Get the essence of the hook. Lay it over a hokey house beat, fill a video with hot chicks with hardly any clothes on and you've got yourself a hit that embeds itself into the minds of 14 year olds the world over. Big cash in the ringtone sales too - subscribe to our service for $4.95 a week and we'll send you THREE new ringtones every week (please ask permission of parents before subscribing)

I forget though - what are the most important things to musically come out of Estonia? Apart from yourself, of course. Winner of Eurovision 2001?

[Snoogans]

Hey G - aren't Mantissa Aussie? I just re-discovered an album of theirs that I've had for a few years - Mossy God. It's really good, in that 90's funk-metal stylee.

[VitaminG]

yea, Snoogs, they are. Can't remember much about them but remember they were pretty good way back when.

just found this page on the Aus Metal Guide. http://www.ausmetalguide.com/Mantissa

[Endrik]

That video typifies everything that is wrong with most popular music today. Don't bother coming up with anything new, it's much cheaper & easier to take someone else's and sample it for your own tune. But now, instead of sampling say, a chorus, they've distilled it down to just two words. Get the essence of the hook. Lay it over a hokey house beat, fill a video with hot chicks with hardly any clothes on and you've got yourself a hit that embeds itself into the minds of 14 year olds the world over. Big cash in the ringtone sales too - subscribe to our service for $4.95 a week and we'll send you THREE new ringtones every week (please ask permission of parents before subscribing)

who cares, the chick is hot!!! :ROTF:

I forget though - what are the most important things to musically come out of Estonia? Apart from yourself, of course. Winner of Eurovision 2001?

carry on with the main subject... nothing to talk about here

everything is utter shit

but if you like modern classical music then there are some dudes worth mentioning... the most important figure is Arvo Part who is one of the most respected minimalists in the world. Then there's Veljo Tormis, Lepo Sumera maybe even Erkki-Sven Tüür
Then there's one great jazz sax player Villu Veski... and a young piano wiz Kristjan Randalu.

That's it

[Endrik]

Hey G - aren't Mantissa Aussie? I just re-discovered an album of theirs that I've had for a few years - Mossy God. It's really good, in that 90's funk-metal stylee.

woah that's a name I don't hear often these days... Mantissa was a pretty cool band

[horns666]

You crazy sumbitches. Guys..lets try to concentrate on the more accessible metal to convert our memeber still stuck in the 80's. I know we all love the gritty stuff. For me it was Coroner that was the bridge to more extreme styles of metal. Lets try to turn people onto nice good gonge, they're familar with stuff like that..before we force 'em to drop large amounts of acid.

I say fuck all the genres and sub genres'. Let keep it simple. Power/Prog metal and Death/Black metal..well keep focused on the prior before we unleash the fury!

Angra 1998 song "Speed" live.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkwqLgaeix0

Angra 1998 song "Speed" studio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyG42sH6IpA

Kamelot live http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOVW9GezQ0k

Kamelot live http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_VGB...eature=related

Kamelot official video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-TUufvK0gU

Conception w/ Khan (Kamelot) and Tore Otsby "roll the fire" 1993 vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iYMHGk-C1U

A GREAT example how black metal vocals brings dynmaics to a band like Kamelot.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gnFb...eature=related

Gary, good call on Tore Otsby..you MUST get the 1998 DC Cooper (Royal hunt, Silent Force) 1998 solo cd with Tore O...awesome disc!!

[VitaminG]

I'll have to keep an eye out for it, Bill. I found Scariot in a local store not long ago, but went back today and it was gone. Picked up Steelbath Suicide instead - I saw Soilwork opening for Anthrax years ago but it's taken me til now to finally pick one of their albums up.

I also picked up both The Darkness albums in a two disc set! Hardcore metalhead, me!

In my defense, I did see Alchemist & Meshuggah the other night

[horns666]

Steel bath suicide is classic..that and Chainheart machine. I love Soilwork..their last sworn to the great divide..you would like that one, good songs. The only one that disappointed me was stabbing the drama.

[GinSonic]

when it comes to music, the two most important things ever to come out of Australia are AC/DC and Deanne Berry's appearance in this music video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIohJZ-rhyk

That vid is total drivel and the song, {If you can call it a song!} is crap of the highest magnitude. Be that as it may, listening and rational thoughts go out the window while oggling that hotty in the vid. She's something else!

As I mentioned to you dudes before; Alot of these bands are new to me. I know not as to how long they've been in existence. I suspect some have been around for some time and some actually are new.

I'm a fan of alot of newer stuff; Atreyu, Avenged Sevenfold, Killswitch Engage, Bullet For My Valentine, In Flames, Lamb Of God, to name a few.{Killswitch, In Flames and LOG I like muchly!} Though those examples are diverse enough and truly show where their roots, sound and style comes from, {80's, Metallica and Pantera type stuff.}, they just don't have that ring of familiarity as say, Dream Evil or Pink Cream 69 does for me.

Metal to me, has always been a topic that's close to my heart. Metal has so many sub-genres. Only in metal you find experimentation with other styles or genres into their music. Reggae, classical, jazz, funk, progressive, folk, ethnic, to name a few. The only genre that metal hasn't touched yet is country.

I'm not a country fan at all. I appreciate what they do, but I'm afraid this 50yr old is too much of a metalhead and doesn't want to grow up! Truth be told, I don't think the two styles can ever mesh well. That'd be like bleu cheese and garlic on a fruit danish. Yuck!

However, Johnny Cash's versions of Rusty Cage and Hurt ain't half bad! I just don't think Achy, Breaky Heart will translate well going the other way!
Cheers.
G.

[Ben...]

All great Kamelot songs. March of Mephisto is a neat song. Karma is still by far my favourite Kamelot song though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4wV4rxTqfU

[phill_up]

Damn I leave town for a week and this thing starts going away.
Alrighty then, no one posted Bloodbath did they?
From what I understand the singer was doing this as a side project, leaves to focus more on Opeth, Then leaves Opeth to come back to bloodbath for good. This MF'er starts beating some ass immediately
Enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhQyEV4ltn4

[drockilles]

Very hard not to post the "cookie monster" stuff in this thread. Been going through old stuff in my metal collection recently that I haven't listened to in a while. Here is a classic thrash band, that is definitely metal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhEhdOTir8Q

[VitaminG]

From what I understand the singer was doing this as a side project, leaves to focus more on Opeth, Then leaves Opeth to come back to bloodbath for good.

where did you hear that? Opeth released a new album this year. With Mikael running the show (as usual).

[horns666]

Very hard not to post the "cookie monster" stuff in this thread. Been going through old stuff in my metal collection recently that I haven't listened to in a while. Here is a classic thrash band, that is definitely metal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhEhdOTir8Q

Actually its not a prob whatsoever..there's tons of new metal bands..inspired by great 80's metal with awesome vocals. I didn't forget this thread. If this thread is on page 50..it'll be revised. This thread ain't going anywhere.

But it looks like my own thread poofed. Many things going on including family and music stuff. I'm preparing for youtube demo for my freind's guitar co, and maybe guitar contest after that. Yeah, I gotta practice..but I'm feeling mighty cocky lately..

Please, post vids, but give a heads up what kind of metal it is...be it Vintage, Modern with clean vocals, or harsh vocals or post the band name. So people have the option to skip the link. Many just don't like the harsh stuff. My agenda is to ease them into it...just like how we grew into it.

I've been peeking in the forum here and there..talking amps lately.

:idea:You know what!! "cookie monster" haters can see how it can be used as DYNAMICS in this great band and singer..they fucking kill live!!!

Into Eternity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm-RGms9Kn0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5GSF...eature=related

Here's Stu showing death vox as dynamics..REAL singers have the best clean and gruff voices..not these "Core" hacks that can't carry a note to save their fuggin' life!..BIG DIFFERENCE..I know this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwIBq...eature=related

Too many "core" hacks turning off so many people..I can't blame them..they're fuggin' horrible. That's all that Headbangers ball promotes. I stopped watching it all together..fuggums. Who needs 'em. We have THIS thread!!!

Balls of metal..

Bill Z

OH BTW..NM's "The Voyager" DVD is NOT released here yet..Best Buy has it coming!!!