True metal vs trends

[Ben...]

Hated for reasons I cannot explain,

I can:
-they're famous because of a video game
-All of their songs sound the same
-they can't play live
-the only thing in tune live is the keyboard
-They don't have sweet Italian accents like the dudes they copied.

That reason enough?

Edit: I put them in the trend category.

[thetroy]

Hated for reasons I cannot explain, these guys are just fun to listen to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjVtVQjvtiU

[Ben...]

Ben, check out Ark. Tore Ostby from Conception on guitars, Jorn on vox, Randy Coven on bass. Really good shit.


I RUUULLLLLEEEE! Check out the new live album/dvd. Fuckin' smokin'!!!

I'll have to check them out when I have some free time.

And yes, I Rule is amazing.

[Aaronharmon]

Wikipedia seems to agree with the history/definition of the term "metal" as I've always understood it.

I've never really understood the whole need to over-classify music and pigeonhole bands. The dizzying array of subgenres is ridiculous. If you like it listen to it. If not turn it off.

Metal: http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=0cF3_ZJhD-Q

Metal vs. non-metal: http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=4hy6sJEPCYM

lol

What do you mean? You don't like Post-punk Emo Indy Rock?

[VitaminG]

Conception: Pretty sweet from what I've heard so far. Plus it's got Roy from Kamelot so that's a bonus.

Masterplan: Listened to them a little. Jorn's a beast.

Ben, check out Ark. Tore Ostby from Conception on guitars, Jorn on vox, Randy Coven on bass. Really good shit.

Tarot: Only heard "Suffer Our Pleasures". Really high quality band.

I RUUULLLLLEEEE! Check out the new live album/dvd. Fuckin' smokin'!!!

[horns666]

Ben..you go boyeeeee.....

[horns666]

Actually most formulas remained the same in metal..just the timing and production changed. Take a song like "Holy Diver" and add double kicks and blast beats..and if you wanna get real crazy..death vox. There, that's metal then and now.

[Ben...]

Hmm... I'll create a list of bands I'm currently listening to that I consider to be metal:

Blind Guardian: Only got to listen to "And Then There was Silence" so far. Seems like metal to me.

Blotted Science: Technical instrumental mumbo-jumbo that's crazy good.

Conception: Pretty sweet from what I've heard so far. Plus it's got Roy from Kamelot so that's a bonus.

Crystal Eyes: Power metal but metal in my books. Early stuffs great and the later stuff has Daniel Heiman on vocals.

Ensiferum: *Ahem* PREEEEEEEOOOOOOOWWWW!!! Great band. Viking metal with power metal influences. The album "Iron" is a masterpiece in my mind. And they had Jari Maenpaa (sorry I can't do umlauts) who also did Wintersun!

Eternal Tears of Sorrow: Recently recommended to me by Bill. Pretty amazing band from the one album I've heard. I especially like the song "Autumn Grief".

Hammerfall: Only listened to wee-little bit of these dudes so far. They seem pretty okay.

Heed: Another Bill-recommended band. The guitars and all that are decent but Daniel Heiman takes the cake for vocals.

Kalmah: The first melodeath band I got into. I quite like the album "The Black Waltz" along with their new album "For The Revolution".

Kamelot: Oh, Roy Khan, can you do any wrong? Truly awesome band with some amazing vocals.

Korpiklaani: I can only listen to these guys a bit. Only when I'm in the mood, otherwise they're just strange.

Lost Horizon: (See: Greatest Band of All Time) My current favourite band. Daniel Heiman on vocals and 5 pages of thank-you's in the booklet for "Awakening the World".

Masterplan: Listened to them a little. Jorn's a beast.

Nevermore: good band to say the least...

Outworld: They're okay. The vocals are meh but the guitar's good.

Rhapsody(Of Fire): Take Dragonforce, subtract the suck, add sweet symphonic stuff and add heavy Italian accents and you get these guys.

Skyfire: Another Bill recommended band. the vocals are rubbish but everything else is good.

Sonata Arctica: A good band so far. I really like Ecliptica.

Tarot: Only heard "Suffer Our Pleasures". Really high quality band.

Therion: Amazing band recommended by Bill. Tuna 1613 is possibly the best song ever though all of them are awesome. "The Wings of The Hydra" also sticks out as a favourite.

Wintersun: Jari at his finest. The whole album is amazing. 'Winter Madness" and "Death and the Healing" are a couple of my favourite songs.

[Spivonious]

Wouldn't bands like AC/DC and Motorhead be considered metal then? They have (or had) alot of attitude in their day.

See, that's why I add in the "focus on guitar and drum skills" to my definition of metal. Attitude can only take you so far.

[horns666]

If he says Soilwork are metal, then the Haunted have to be.

Of course..both are part of a HUGE continuum of At The Gates. Unfortunately trendy Emo-Screamo-Core wouldn't exist without those bands, including KSE..who openly admit that many times!

[khabibissell]

Metal is an attitude.
And Black Sabbath are without a doubt the Godfathers of Metal.

Wouldn't bands like AC/DC and Motorhead be considered metal then? They have (or had) alot of attitude in their day.

[horns666]

You guys keep talkin'..I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doin' . I have lots of trends and metal ground to cover. This is going to be a very long thread..its my gift to you!

The Darkness..yeah, I just happened to come by that. They were huge for a year then poofed. My singer loved them..I took them as a gifted novelty.

I'm havin' fun..

Bye..its pizza time!

[Spivonious]

If he says Soilwork are metal, then the Haunted have to be.

And man, I never realized how much John Williams ripped off Holst for the Star Wars music.

[joelayres]

what exactly makes a band "metal"? I'd like to know...

Metal is an attitude.
And Black Sabbath are without a doubt the Godfathers of Metal.

[SEEGERMANY]

Now Bill, don't make too much fun of me, but I do own one CD that will make you want to have sex with the tailpipe on a Suburban. Matter of fact, it was a gift from one of my son's friends. It's The Haunted - The Haunted Made Me Do It. I'm not sure how you would categorize this CD.