True metal vs trends

[GinSonic]

I know Symphony X has been mentioned already, but I had to post the vid for one of my favorites from them.
Symphony X - Eve of Seduction:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zml0OsRe5t0

Some other stuff I've been into lately;
Lullacry - Don't Touch the Flame:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3QhGIZ6E9k

Vampire - Xandria:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i7MWgg9GOo

Helloween - As Long As I Fall:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f70FohmxHM4

In Flames - Cloud Connected:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJP5MqniJZo

Sevendust - Crucify:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUMfUJc4dtE

All That Remains - Six:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHYJ-XX86cE

I'm a 51 year old metalhead and I can't help it!
Cheers!
G.

[Cleveland Metal]

Wow..apparently Tommy Veterlli is in this band NEVERLAND. I must get it!!! .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT32C4IHj1g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-XtV...eature=related

Tommy was in Kreator for a while. But he didn't get much solo action. He's an awesome player IMO! One of my faves.

Sadly, Tommy isn't "in" the band. He's a producer... Pretty cool nonetheless.

Man, wish he'd play again, always seriously dug his playing.

[Ben...]

*Rob Halford runs in again, slightly huffing and puffing*

REEESSUUURRREEECCC*cough cough*TTIOONN!!

Been listening to a bit more Quo Vadis lately. I find I like the old stuff a lot more than the newer stuff.

[Endrik]

some new alternative rock which is not like Oasis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqDxsBHmEqc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=985kqjoV-FM

[Endrik]

Warrior Soul: What would you class them as?
To me it's metal, but I've seen them classed as an Alternative band. They have a slight Psychedelic bent at times, but they're still metal sounding.

In fact, it seems to me that in the 90's when the Alternative genre came to fruition that many bands were wrongly described as Alternative.

I realize that the Alternative genre was heavily influenced by the Psychedelic sixties, but any band that had elements of that in the 90's were automatically put in the same category as Oasis.
Damn A&R blockheads!

I'd class them as good music.
I don't know what "wrongly described as Alternative" means because as a hater of categorization I think alternative is one of the best things you can be called. Alternative is not style, it's probably the most diverse category in rock'n'roll. It means you offer alternatives to the usual rock. And there's many ways to do it hence why there are so many different bands called alternative. Alternative bands have very very different influences. Psychedelic rock is on of the main ones but then you also have all the other music styles in existence.
One of the most important Alternative rock bands Jane's Addiction had many different influences... the signer was a goth fan, the guitarist was a metal/rock fan, the bassist was a punk fan, the drummer was a jazz/fusion/prog fan.
Another very important alternative group is Radiohead. Notice any similarities between them and Jane's Addiction... I don't. Or what about Tool, heavily influenced of prog rock and metal... they don't sound like Radiohead at all.
Warrior Soul has many similarities with I Mother Earth, Jane's Addiction etc. Warrior Soul is alternative. Oasis is gayass Britpop.

[Ben...]

I'm not sure. They seem more hard rockish than metal but they do have some elements of some of the old metal from the 80's. The psychedelic stuff I have no clue about. That stuff doesn't really hit me as metal. I like the second link the best out of the six.

[GinSonic]

I'm glad you did, Ben!
Truth be told, I was gong to bring it back with this post, but you beat me to the resurrection dude!

Warrior Soul: What would you class them as?
To me it's metal, but I've seen them classed as an Alternative band. They have a slight Psychedelic bent at times, but they're still metal sounding.

In fact, it seems to me that in the 90's when the Alternative genre came to fruition that many bands were wrongly described as Alternative.

I realize that the Alternative genre was heavily influenced by the Psychedelic sixties, but any band that had elements of that in the 90's were automatically put in the same category as Oasis.
Damn A&R blockheads!

Well, what do you guys think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG_WnXI7s1A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLrxbmYActM&feature=related

Here;s a good example of their Psychedelic side:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyAMEbS0naw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8pqYtgoQaE&feature=related

Here's a couple of more of my favourite Warrior soul tunes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKBIky0mWpA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5_rqVYvgZo

G.

[Ben...]

*Cough, cough*

Oops, sorry. I DEFINITELY didn't mean to resurrect this thread. It's not like there's any good music out right now...

None at all... Or any to discuss...

None of that either...

Why did I accidentally bring this thread up... Silly me.

[Ben...]

People tend to hate on them because they got a lot of attention from being in a videogame.

This is kinda scaring me. They're starting to get semi-good bands in these games and I can't help but worry that little 13-year olds will start listening to them and ruining their fan bases.

[jinx]

Speaking of Iommi...

Metal? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9KbmRTgigQ

People tend to hate on them because they got a lot of attention from being in a videogame. I dig em, even if they are pretty much channelling Masters of Reality era Sabbath. There are worse things to rip off...

I saw The Sword and really enjoyed their live show.

[Ben...]

Oh wow another nickname...

Big Chief Wannasuggums...



Here's a couple live videos of them. Some nice Jackson footage too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxisiffF31M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrLOYxgEIrU

Holy drum machine in the second video!!!




Edit: Here's a video of the rank bass playage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6_i0_hQ868

[Hellbat]

Speaking of Iommi...

Metal? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9KbmRTgigQ

People tend to hate on them because they got a lot of attention from being in a videogame. I dig em, even if they are pretty much channelling Masters of Reality era Sabbath. There are worse things to rip off...

[horns666]

metal is more of an ideology then something you can just define you can know the gimmicks and trends because they do not stand the test of time but those who stay true remain or return back to the roots of heavy metal while the posers disappear as their gimmicks lose appeal and I consider Sabbath to be the definitive of heavy fucking metal the beginning and end of all things heavy fucking metal

Yes, I've said this many times.

All Trends have expiration dates and metal is timeless. Metal is the anti-trend. its that simple.

Sabbath was the beginning of metal due to Toni's severed digits. Those fingertips sewn the seeds of metal in Earth. Since then, a metal forest has grown from those seeds...an underground forest of evil bushery

Hail to the metal shrubs spawned by Iommi's severed nubs.

Big Chief Wannasuggums

[Floating Seeds]

metal is more of an ideology then something you can just define you can know the gimmicks and trends because they do not stand the test of time but those who stay true remain or return back to the roots of heavy metal while the posers disappear as their gimmicks lose appeal and I consider Sabbath to be the definitive of heavy fucking metal the beginning and end of all things heavy fucking metal

[horns666]

Actually...Steve DiGiorgio plays bass on the Quo Vadis disc...Great Technical Death!

Yep..That's a great cd. Steve D and I hung out and ate Burger King at the airport. He was carrying his fretless on his back ..we spent a half an hour or so exchanging bass riffs..he was playing with Testament at the time. Awesome player..he did more sessions than I can count!

I should hop back on this fuggin' thread huh..I just been so fuggin' tied up at home. It's insane.