True metal vs trends

[Ben...]

"Life, baptised in metal, by the secret of steel you are blessed. HAIL!"

Best lyrics ever? I think so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gpjy...eature=related

The live version's the best... and funniest. How many of you scream a bunch of incoherent gibberish into a mic before a song?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7wME409C4&feature=related

[metalchurch79]

Phillup, that's so damn true right there! "See if it works or smokes" Wouldn't that be cool to have?
For the most part I try to continue to either call it metal or non metal. The term metal is too broad anymore and the name metal is almost a whore in some respects.
Ever hear the term 'Classic Metal'? I guess that's what they call the metal from the late 70' (nwobhm) and early to mid 80's.
Cool with me man, I'll go with that! It differentiates and makes a statement leaving no confusion.

[phill_up]

core isn't supposed to be metal... core comes from punk... first there was hardcore (punk on steroids) then there was grindcore and then all the other stuff

I remember when it was just called metal but there are so many sub genres now I'm not sure what came from where. Pop Metal, Top 40 metal, Death Metal, black Metal, Doom Metal, Thrash metal, speed metal and I thought I heard rap metal. Bill Z. has used the term "True Metal" What sub genres will fit into this category?

This hasn't been mentioned yet.
Metal or Trend? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QaS59zq7jU

Its too bad there isn't a ladder schematic with each sub genre performing a certain task. we could energize it and see if it worked or smoked.

[Spivonious]

"Life, baptised in metal, by the secret of steel you are blessed. HAIL!"

Best lyrics ever? I think so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gpjy6Pt6ng&feature=related

[Endrik]

metalcore isn't supposed to be metal? I get so confused....

no, it's modern hardcore (very bad I might say) mixed with metal elements.... if a fusion of hardcore and metal should be metal... then you get thrash metal...

[VitaminG]

metalcore isn't supposed to be metal? I get so confused....

[Endrik]

core isn't supposed to be metal... core comes from punk... first there was hardcore (punk on steroids) then there was grindcore and then all the other stuff

[Ben...]

To me, that's more metal than some of the "core" crap that is considered metal in the mainstream.

[phill_up]

Damn You guys! You forgot this!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7ykEyZyiVk
If this isn't metal well... so what I am still going to call it "True Metal"

For the record I saw pantera in 1988, 20 freakin years ago! I'm still impressed!
I was on the motley crue wagon in the day as well, metal? Who cares <shrugs>

[phill_up]

TREND...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIU40FNJXKo

METAL..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C6b34-ESfo&NR=1

I thought soilwork was pop metal?

[Ben...]

How could I forget Conception!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM4YaYcS6IY

[Ben...]

Clean vocals hey?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h5K8-Y7d_o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z60P0J3ojpI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNLEwLtzjnU (clean enough)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBX2_8WqjEY ()

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwC_GJpLK8s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU0RpSElca4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBGVCvcWy64 (Oh yeah...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEgv61WKfJ8 (Crazy bass-playage!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4wV4rxTqfU (Favourite song from these dudes)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_VGBlQRl2c (Roy's a beast!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2vcjPZ5tkk (Daniel from Lost Horizon's on this one)

[metalchurch79]

Slayer had a non metal moment of their own with that cover of "Born to be wild".
Other than that I'd have to agree with you. Sabbath will always be my fav though!

[drockilles]

So Bill, just wondering what you think of All That Remains covering "Believe in Nothing". Metal or trend?

[Firebird V]

Yes Chris, slayer is metal..I don't think anyone doubts this.

Be back later..you dicks.

Yes. Slayer is Metal Bill Z. I just thought I would mention it once more since it had not been mentioned in the last few pages... lol.


BUT. Who in your opinion was the first TRUE METAL ALL METAL STAYED METAL band of all time....

Slayer? Hmmm.

Can't say Sabbath. Maybe the GODFATERS of what was to be but I can think of a few non-metal moments in there career where they flaked....