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    DETROIT — So you think junior is a little too lead-footed when he drives the family car? Starting next year, Ford Motor Co. will give you the power to do something about it.


    The company will roll out a new feature on many 2010 models that can limit teen drivers to 80 mph, using a computer chip in the key.
    Parents also have the option of programming the teen's key to limit the audio system's volume, and to sound continuous alerts if the driver doesn't wear a seat belt.


    "Our message to parents is, hey, we are providing you some conditions to give your new drivers that may allow you to feel a little more comfortable in giving them the car more often," said Jim Buczkowski, Ford's director of electronic and electrical systems engineering.


    The feature, called "MyKey," will be standard on an unspecified number of Ford models when the 2010 cars and trucks come out late next summer. The feature will spread to the entire Ford, Lincoln and Mercury lineup as models are updated, spokesman Wes Sherwood said.


    Ford arrived at the 80 mph limit even though freeway speed limits are lower in most states because it wanted to leave a margin in case an unusual situation arises, Buczkowski said. In some states, freeway speed limits are above 70 mph, Sherwood said.


    "Just lopping it off at exactly 70 mph was felt to be too limiting," Buczkowski said.
    The company already uses computer chips in its keys to prevent thefts. The car won't start unless it recognizes the chip in the key.
    "It's making use of existing technology, and through the magic of software, we're able to build features on top of the features we already have," Buczkowski said.


    In addition to speed limits, MyKey also will limit the volume of the audio system, and it will sound a six-second chime every minute if seat belts are not fastened. The chime sounds for adult drivers, too, but ends after five minutes to avoid annoying adults who adamantly don't want to wear seat belts, Buczkowski said.


    Parents also have the option of having the car sound a chime if the teen exceeds 45, 55 or 65 mph.


    Ford said its market research shows 75 percent of parents like the speed and audio limits, but as you might expect, 67 percent of teens don't like them.


    Danisha Williams, a 16-year-old senior at Southfield-Lathrup High School in suburban Detroit, said she's against the idea.


    "I wouldn't want my parents to have that much control over how I'm driving," she said. "If your parents are holding your hand, you're never going to learn."


    Brittany Hawthorne, 17, another Southfield-Lathrup senior, said there may be emergency situations where she'd have to drive more than 80, possibly to accelerate to avoid a crash.


    Ford's research shows that parents would be more likely to let teens use their vehicles with the system, Sherwood said, and if it gets them the car more often, the number of teens objecting drops by nearly half.


    A top official from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, a research group funded by the auto insurance industry that is pushing to raise the minimum driving age to 17 or 18, found the key intriguing. IIHS says car crashes are the leading cause of death among teenagers.


    "Research we've done has shown that speeding is a major factor in teen crashes, especially novice teen drivers," said Anne McCartt, the institute's senior vice president for research. "So I think a system that tries to correct the speeding behavior has the potential to improve safety."


    More than 5,000 U.S. teens die each year in car crashes. The rate of crashes, fatal and nonfatal, per mile driven for 16-year-old drivers is almost 10 times the rate for drivers ages 30 to 59, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.




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    Now let's stop for a moment here and look at the REAL joke: Ford thinks every parent buys their teen a new car when they drive? :ROTF: Who here didn't start on some beat up rice burner or compact car (I share a beat up '93 Corolla with my parents). Not to mention some newer cars, like Mitsubishi have chimes that blare at you when you don't wear your seatbelt for every driver, standard on every car. The stereo limit controller is a joke as well. The speed limiter... eh good idea until they got to the option to make it chime at you over certain speeds. Like most people don't drive 55 at some point in the day. It just seems like they are so desperate to increase sales, they are going to outlandish things like this.

    Besides, if you want a safe reliable car for my kids, it would not be a Ford after the issues they had with recalls in the 90s (Focus, Explorer tire fiasco), and the fact our friend's new Explorer is a POS (leaky sunroof, already having mechanical issues.) Our last Ford (a '96 Taurus) had a transmission blow out (the casing broke open just driving down the road... how does that happen?) at 120k, and had a few electrical issues. Our neighbor's 2000 Windstar (transmission after 12k, engine had issues, AC didn't work well) was a total lemon they got rid of after having it 2 years. If Ford consistently built quality cars, they would not need gimmicks like this and the Flex to try and save themselves.

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    doesn't sound to me like they're suggesting that every parent is going to buy their kid a new car. Seems more like, if you want to let the kids drive the family car (as it says in the article), you can feel comfortable that there are some limitations built into the car. Give them the restricted key and know they aren't doing 100 down the end of your street & blasting the shit out of the neighbours with the new Lil Nutsac cd.

    I know I'd feel a lot more secure letting my kids take out the family car knowing that. My kids are too young to drive yet, but my car has power to burn and I can just imagine the temptation for an inexperienced driver if they were to jump behind the wheel of it. It's no '93 Corolla. I know I drove like an idiot when I got the chance at that age. And maybe it's just part of the learning experience, but we lost a few friends to idiotic driving back then, and I don't think too many kids learnt much from their friend's mistakes.

    I remember being 17 and out in a friend's parent's car, doing 220kph down a country road. We thought it was great fun at the time, but a blown tyre and all of our parents would have been trying to identify five bodies at the morgue after they'd scraped what was left of us off out of the trees.
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    • #3
      "to drive more than 80, possibly to accelerate to avoid a crash"

      Yea, that happens a lot!
      "POOP"

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      • #4
        I think the speed limit should be limited to 55. Also, each student driver would be given a CD player loaded with one song and one song only! I think "I can't Drive 55" would be appropriate.
        "POOP"

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        • #5
          Originally posted by SEEGERMANY View Post
          "to drive more than 80, possibly to accelerate to avoid a crash"

          Yea, that happens a lot!

          Eh, I can think of times where it matters. I generally do 75-80 when on a major interestate. Sometimes you're stuck between a rock & a hard place- Guy comes roaring up behind you riding your bumper, and you're curtained in by cars on both sides. The "driving in packs" pheonomenon that seems to be so prevalent....safety in numbers? Yeah right.

          Being able to drop the hammer & 1) have some dynamite from a power standpoint on call and 2) have it not top out at a speed that is probably WAY lower than the tool coming up behind you is the minimum.

          I'd be wary of limiting power. What I as a parent would MUCH rather have is a "black box" that alerted me if the car hit certain speeds. Then I could ask, "OK, wtf kid?" and if he/she said, "Listen, I almost got shit hammered, the highway went from 3 to two lanes, I had a tractor trailer to the left, a guard rail on the right, a moron in a hummer 2 feet off my bumper at 75 mph and about 1/8 a mile to make a decision." I'd say, "OK, good job".

          If it was repeated bursts of 150mph, well then, that would be different, wouldn't it?

          Vass

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          • #6
            " I'd say, "OK, good job".

            And he'd say "the old man bought it!"
            "POOP"

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            • #7
              I'm surprised they haven't tried to put a speed limiter like this on all cars a long time ago.


              I've probably ranted about this before so I'll keep it short in this thread:

              If we want to reduce the amount of traffic accidents (and subsequently, insurance rates), then we need to look at our licensing system and our law enforcement.

              This is not an engineering problem.

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              • #8
                Just to comment on Ford's quality issues, I've had no serious problems with my '03 Focus, and it was made in Mexico. I think they've really turned things around since the late 90s.

                Btw, my car chimes for no seatbelt every five minutes when the car is in motion, is speed limited to 115mph, and is rpm limited to 6800rpm (red lines at 7), so this isn't completely new technology; it just limits it based on what key is inserted.

                Troy - if you're alluding to the discussions now about raising the driving age to 18, I totally agree with you. I also think we should lower the drinking age to 18. Heck, it's 14 in Germany and they don't have big DUI problems. Having it at 21 just encourages binge drinking.
                Scott

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                • #9
                  No I wasn't talking about the age thing. There are bad drivers that are 30, 40, and 50. I mean make it so you have to be a GOOD driver to get a license, not like our current system where you only have to know which pedals make the car go and stop. Make people pass real driving schools where they take you out on tracks and teach you how to actually handle a vehicle.

                  The law enforcement thing is simple too: Enforce the laws! If someone is speeding, pull themn over and give them a ticket for the exact speed they were going. Who cares if it's only 3 MPH over the limit? It's still breaking the law. If I go rob a bank but only take $50, the police don't just let me go. This is no different.

                  edit - re: drinking age - There should be no drinking age. That has not, does not, and will not work. It creates way more problems than it solves.

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                  • #10
                    My solution for dangerous drivers: Road Magistrates!

                    Unmarked mobil vans with a Judge, Bailiff, Court Reporter with recording equipment. Give them absolute authority with zero chance for appeal and let them put some fear in the reckless drivers. Accident rates would plummet, imo.

                    The ability to drive is not a right.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SEEGERMANY View Post
                      I think the speed limit should be limited to 55. Also, each student driver would be given a CD player loaded with one song and one song only! I think "I can't Drive 55" would be appropriate.
                      Only thing is someone doing 55 on a stretch of highway where the limit is 65 or 70 and everyone is going 5-10MPH over is probably a bigger problem.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Vass View Post
                        Eh, I can think of times where it matters. I generally do 75-80 when on a major interestate. Sometimes you're stuck between a rock & a hard place- Guy comes roaring up behind you riding your bumper, and you're curtained in by cars on both sides. The "driving in packs" pheonomenon that seems to be so prevalent....safety in numbers? Yeah right.
                        Don't you just love NJ drivers on the Turnpike and Parkway?!? Fucking idiots driving in packs pisses me off!!!
                        I feel my soul go cold... only the dead are smiling.

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                        • #13
                          yea i think its quite retarded. If parents cant trust their kid to drive safely then dont buy them a car.

                          Everyone is so anti-natural-selection these days.

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                          • #14
                            What if they're doing 80 down a culdi-sac?:ROTF:
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by wilkinsi View Post
                              What if they're doing 80 down a culdi-sac?:ROTF:
                              Exactly. Most teens in this area wreck on surface streets. They need to develope something that would interface with GPS and then limit speed based on the road the person is traveling on.

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