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+1 for the guy getting what he deserved.
And +1 for deleting this thread -- I'd hate to see this come back & bite you Horns.
And +1 for deleting this thread -- I'd hate to see this come back & bite you Horns.
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If Bill wants to delete it, that's cool, but he defended himself, period. The guy was 8 inches taller and 100 lbs heavier, sounds like he was fucked up on some kind of stimulant. That's a situation where you have to keep hitting them until they are UNABLE to retaliate. Especially when he was defending Val as well as himself - a nutcase like that could easily have killed them both if Bill had dropped his guard.
Bill has way too much street experience for him to let that happen. Plus this had to be a flashback to the fucker he had to subdue off the plane who broke his neck and forced him to retire. Wacked-out giant attacking you, and this time your wife if he gets past you? Bill had no choice but to do exactly what he did.
I see that Bill did exactly what he had to do to secure his wife Val's safety above all else.Ron is the MAN!!!!Comment
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No question here, I would have done the same to the guy if I was able to...Comment
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I'm not so sure.Originally posted by lerxstcat View Post
No accident so why did he stop and get out of the car? I think that's what the DA would want to know.Comment
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After 14 yrs as an officer and writing thousands of reports, I'm sure Bill could articulate his reasoning for exiting the vehicle fairly well.Comment
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The guy accidentally missed him once, then tried to hit him again. Maybe he wanted to try and talk the guy down, which he couldn't do from inside the car. Also, he wouldn't want the guy to run up on him and catch him either inside the car, or worse, halfway out.Originally posted by SouthPlatteDemon View Post
From what the guy had already done, he needed to be in a defensive posture that would allow Val time to run for help if worse came to worse.
I'm sure the DA would recognize that as tactics Bill was taught as a police officer. The guy in the Escalade was the aggressor without a doubt.Ron is the MAN!!!!Comment
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Logically, an 89 Ford Tempo, -vs- a guy menacing w/a modern full size high powered luxury SUV/truck? Not much sense in trying to evade the guy and endangering your family's safety.
In police academy, recruits are HEAVILY trained to exit their cars when a confrontation is imminent. Patrol cars are known as "coffins" when dealing with a high risk vehicle stop. All they EVER trained us was to get the hell out of the car...Comment
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Any word from Bill? It's been a couple days...Comment
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Not that I know anything about how police are trained, but I suspect any office, whether active or retired, automatically goes into police mode when they are in a situation like that. I don't suspect you can easily turn off those years of training.
Originally posted by Cleveland Metal View Post"Yes,..that's when they used to shove a red hot spike in your peehole until you screamed "yes, yes, godammit ..you fuggin' dicks..I'm a witch..I am witch..you cocksuckers"" horns666Comment
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No, I hate to used the term brainwashing, but I'll ya, it don't go away. When shit hits the fan, you fall back to training.
In academy, we watched a terribly sad video of an officer laying there dying next to his car after being shot, and the last thing he was doing was gurgling a police academy self defense KATA (choreographed patterns of movements and vocalizations that we were trained on) as he died...
It was heart wrenchingly pathetic to watch as that bit of training that is drilled into our heads was all his consciousness was falling back on to do to save himself as he died...
You always fall back on your training...Comment
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So John, I'm sure Bill must be trying to decompress from that whole incident right now. Have you heard from him to at least know he's okay? And Val, she must be traumatized by it too. Just let them know that mojo is sent from us all!Ron is the MAN!!!!Comment
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Yesterday was a week since it happened. Something like that would probably take me a month to recoup from.Originally posted by lerxstcat View Post"Dear Dr. Bill,
I work with a woman who is about 5 feet tall and weighs close to 450 pounds and has more facial hair than ZZ Top." - Jack The Riffer
"OK, we can both have Ben..joint custody. I'll have him on the weekends. We could go out in my Cobra and give people the finger..weather permitting of course.." -Bill Z. BubComment
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Ben, wait till you get to be old farts like us.
Hell, I get sore just from trimming my toenails!
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Sorry to hear that Bill and sorry the Mrs had to witness that kind of thing first hand. I hope your doing alright.
The world is full of fucktards like that dude. The guy got what he deserved no question about that. Having said that I'm a bit dissapointed by the stomping on the guy after he was already down for the count. Totally understandable though because, I know if I was in a pissed off rage fighting a big, strong, dumb motherfucker...I probably wouldn't know when to quit either because when its on...its on mutherfucker and no tellin when it gets turned off
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"I blasted this guy in the mouth and nose approx 40-50 times."
I'll be the first to admit, I love to read Bill's posts. I can just picture that baldheaded fucker sitting at the keyboard wailing away at the keys, grinning from ear to ear, as he entertains us with his stories. And as with most good storytellers, it helps to embellish events to keep the reader interested from beginning to end.
I learned a long time ago that 40-50 is a lot of anything, except money. "I caught 50 fish today." "I did 50 pull ups this morning." "blah, blah, blah." You have to admit, 50 sounds better than 13, 21, 17, etc, etc. Frankly, as big as Bill is and knowing his professional training, 40-50 blows to the face would probably have killed the guy.
Given the nature and intensity of the incident, I doubt Bill really has any idea how many times he clubbed the fucker! Does it matter? FUCK NO! It made for a great story that too many people are disecting to death. Now, I'm ready for Chapter 2!
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