Americans: Never talk to the police!

[Cleveland Metal]

Damn dude... you need help...

[SEEGERMANY]

"Shazaam, we may need a citizen's arrest!"

[JacksonVHT]

Damn dude... you need help...

Yeah, cause I'm the 45 year old man who posts far too frequently on a forum, has interests of "satan/sex," whos location is from a shitty slayer song, can't compile a sentence, and holds himself on a pedestal above others on the internet.

All that while dodging my obligations as a father and husband.

Yeah, I'm totally the one who needs help.

Oh, there's #5 of "I'm too much of a retard to respond."

[joelayres]

"Shazaam, we may need a citizen's arrest!"

Best damn post of the thread!!

[AK47]

Nah - what could have been an intelligent discussion has turned into an insult hurling free for all, which I refuse to become part of.

There were some posts of value still left early in the 4th page.

Look at page two if you have not yet I broke down the arrest and pre-arrest question you had. With real legal terms not any cop double talk.

[JacksonVHT]

I'm done, anyway. I'd like to continue to discuss this as well.

Cleveland has yet to respond anything of value, and if Horn actually replies then I'll....well I'll probably shit my pants laughing to death anyway.

[JacksonVHT]

"Are you guys detaining me or am I free to leave this thread?'


Just so you know when you say you want a lawyer for questioning. No Lawyer comes out to the scene and talks to the cops ever unless you are OJ. The cops dont say "Hold on lets call a lawyer for this guy." They just cuff you and stuff you.

You have to follow up with taking badge numbers and contacting the ACLU and the IA for the department to report a wrongful arrest if you are Not Charged.

I dont think cops even bother "interviewing" lawyers because a lawyers is just go to invoke the 5th for his client till court. Anything less and your lawyer is a dumptruck.

Yep, if you're going to be detained then it's almost completely inevitable.

[JacksonVHT]

However, I do not believe that inalienable rights (that means God given), should be tampered with to facilitate easier arrests.

Another point I agree with, the rights of the people should never be sacrificed for the punishment of criminals.

This is the same theory that follows gun control and why it's so asinine.

[levantin]

Yeah, cause I'm the 45 year old man who posts far too frequently on a forum, has interests of "satan/sex," whos location is from a shitty slayer song, can't compile a sentence, and holds himself on a pedestal above others on the internet.

All that while dodging my obligations as a father and husband.

Yeah, I'm totally the one who needs help.

Oh, there's #5 of "I'm too much of a retard to respond."

You realise that you're talking about a man who suffered a serious injury in the line of duty? I'd show a little respect. Calm down bro.

[Cleveland Metal]

Not like I pay much attention to these, but this is funny. My horroscope for today:

"Today, you will become involved in a less than intellectual argument and it might not be one worth having. Make sure you aren't just being contrary because you want to stir up some excitement or because you just don't like the other person very much. You don't have to go out of your way to be harmonious, but you also don't have to go out of your way to disagree with them. If they are wrong, just let them be wrong. It's really not worth the energy to try and change their mind."


Hehehe... Weird how that popped up...

[JacksonVHT]

You realise that you're talking about a man who suffered a serious injury in the line of duty? I'd show a little respect. Calm down bro.

I'll add this one final post to this irrelevant bickering between myself and them:

I never scolded/attacked or made fun of his injury or service.

Besides the fact that I was medically discharged from the Marine corps because of an injury I sustained overseas, his injury does NOT grant him the right to disrespect others. I hope you agree with me there.

Not like I pay much attention to these, but this is funny. My horroscope for today:

"Today, you will become involved in a less than intellectual argument and it might not be one worth having. Make sure you aren't just being contrary because you want to stir up some excitement or because you just don't like the other person very much. You don't have to go out of your way to be harmonious, but you also don't have to go out of your way to disagree with them. If they are wrong, just let them be wrong. It's really not worth the energy to try and change their mind."


Hehehe... Weird how that popped up...

Way to go, you read horoscopes.

Just when I thought you couldn't go any lower.

Dip shit.

[Jayster]

Way to go, you read horoscopes.
Just when I thought you couldn't go any lower.
Dip shit.

It's possible that this was a subtle attempt to bring civility back to this thread.

[Cleveland Metal]

Prolly discharged from the military because youre a fucking mentally off asshole...

Ummm, basically, fuck you fuktard pretty much covers it.

[Cleveland Metal]

It's possible that this was a subtle attempt to bring civility back to this thread.

It was, but jacksonVHT is a fucking asshole. and now I'm acting like one... Ugh...

[LouSiffer]

Lou,

Honest question for you - not trying to be a smart-ass:
Was your decision to make an arrest based on the fact that this guy didn't want to make a statement, or was it based on the fact that he was utterly disrespectful and deserved a kick in the ass?

Joel,

This is based on the fact that he would not give me his personal info when it is clear that I am obviously an officer. He doesn't have to tell me anything he has seen or knows, but, he does have to tell me his personal info.

In accordance to the Miranda and Ohio State law, he does not have to answer any questions that could implicate him as a suspect, however, if I ask for his personal information since it MAY be pertinant to the issue at hand, he has to give it to me. If not, that is considered obstruction of an officer while doing an investigation. Its a felony in Ohio, and I think its an F3 or F4 if I remember right. F3 being more serious.

These laws and the severity of punishment could vary from state to state, but, it seems almost all states have something similar in place.-Lou