Keep buying crap made in China suckers

[Cleveland Metal]

I can ONLY say, with how the economy here tanked, the days of people making 27 bucks an hour for manufacturing jobs are pretty much gone. This is probably all a big facade to get us back in line and to be happy as fuck to get that crappy ass busting job for 8-10 buck an hour and no benefits.

America has worked their way into this, and what else would it take to cleanse it? Devastate the economy, make workers starve, destroy their (overextended) credit, lose their unaffordable homes, and suffer not having jack shit for a while. F-ing reality check there kiddies. I know I've been pretty fucked since 9/11. So, I'm just curious how long we have to get fucked to get things back to a liveable condition.

I've never had much money or anything in my life. but, I was always able to pay my bills. I haven't been so able to do that. I'm just now hoping to get back close to being on track when some paychecks get here. What I'm doing now and getting paid ok for is BECAUSE people are robbing banks left and right here. People quit being desperate, I might even lose my job, haha....

Ugh, I'm thinking we "may" start making a few things here again when we can ever finally "afford" to pay American labor again.

[FlyingSkull]

I understand the sentiments expressed here and have made some of these arguments myself about foreign products.

To be fair tho, I may be wet behind the ears but I'm still old enough to remember these same arguments being made about Japanese products back in the 80's. From cars to electronics to tools to whatever crap they were sending at the time. So now it's China, India is getting going and then ...

Was looking at Milwaukee and Ridgid chopsaws the otherday. Yup both made in China. I think Dewalt has their stuff made over there too.

[markD]

it all comes down to greed. americans have priced themselves out of work, or the corporations demand a 200% profit margin.

the UAW is a great example. the worked really hard to get autoworkers benefits and decent salaries. now it is just a bloated, corrupt institution that has more than a finger on the decline of the american auto industry.

i agree that places like walmart eat asshole, but last time i went to a mom and pop shop for something, a comparable RCA product was 3 times the cost of a ching-a-ling made product at walmart. i bought the RCA anyway because i HATE walmart and i TRY to support local businesses, but it hurt my wallet.

as i have said on more than a few occassions, america is to greedy to REALLY care where it gets its products. success is measured by material wealth not self satisfaction, so "he with the most toys wins."

[horns666]

Oh, I know you weren't begrudging anyone on that. I myself, still feel cognative disonance from having to do so.

Sad thing is that so many things are NOT even made in the US anymore... So, not buyable really anywhere other than from China sources. Ugh...

That's what I'm sayin'..

[horns666]

I want the most bang for my buck. If that means China gets that buck, so be it. To me buying American/China/Japan/whatever is a crapshoot these days. Especially with electronics. I've had imprtated "cheap" shit outlast American shit many times over.

In fact I like my old import HRR Strat better than my American Floyd Rose Classic strat. There's no comparison IMO. But I had this import phobia at that time and thought it was sub par for that reason. But for what it's worth, all my guitars are made in America.

Funny thing is, I NEVER shop at Walmart. It's just something I never made a habbit doin'. I got my chosen few that I shop at and that's it. So If that's any consolation..then cool.

What isn't made in China..? :think:If you buy and American product, does that mean there isn't any imported parts in that product?

I've been hearing this stuff since I was a kid, and I'm old. So that means all of us really.

I would opt to keep job here by buying Amercian. All my cars are American. I never owned any imports. Does that mean all the parts including my Sony car stereo was made here..?:think:

Tim I know what you mean..it makes sense. But like I said, what isn't made in China/Korea/Japan..other than stuff in the Martha Stewart and Jaclyn Smith collection. BTW Wasn't one of them accused of having their shit made in a sweat shop made my third world toddlers, and the other one tax fruad?

[Endrik]

my dad has brought a lot of US made tools and electronics over the years and they aren't really that expensive, pretty much in the same price range as German and Japanese products. Most of my musical gear is American and when I lived in Cali I tried to find cool US made stuff but the variety isn't very big. There's certain areas like Cars, Guitars, Surfboards, local artwork and some other things in which case made in US stuff is available everywhere but you really have to search to get other things. Really hard to find clothing items unless they are expensive designer made. I brought a cool US made Alice Cooper t-shirt, but that was made in the 70's. Oh yeah, I have a lot of 60's 70's and even 80's American stuff at home as it's easier to find.
But German stuff for example is a lot easier to find and their small businesses are doing better.
I guess it's wether the majority gives a fuck or not.
You can't do anything about it when most people just don't care.

We have a problem with different food products because people don't care.
In Southern Europe where everyone are nuts about quality food, no supermarket will ever be a threat to local markets and local products. All the supermarkets and McDonalds and shit like that go out of business unless they are in the tourist areas (because tourists are idiots, instead of trying out unique local flavors, they get the crap they can get at home anytime), because the locals don't give a shit about crap quality.
All their best local products are kept to their own people, and it's cheap for them, all the crap is sent out. To here for example. We get the leftovers.
But what to we do? We send out our best products and keep the crap. So we have our crap and foreign crap. And because the local crap is RIDICULOUSLY expensive (someone thought it's a great idea to have the highest food prices in all of Europe, in a country which isn't very wealthy) then of course many will buy the foreign crap... as do I but only when foreign stuff is better which it often is.

[Cleveland Metal]

Oh, I know you weren't begrudging anyone on that. I myself, still feel cognative disonance from having to do so.

Sad thing is that so many things are NOT even made in the US anymore... So, not buyable really anywhere other than from China sources. Ugh...

[hippietim]

John - I don't begrudge anyone doing what they've got to do to get by as law abiding citizens.

But a substantial number of things that WalMart sells are from necessities and that really is where the bulk of the problem lies.

[Cleveland Metal]

What's sad (and guilt ridden) is when you're poor and basically "have' to shop there for many things in order to maintain just the necessities. They have a LARGE demographic by the proverbial balls... Evil...

[john.w.lawson]

Did you see that doc on Walmart? The really are ass wipes,they call the shots and if you can not make it cheap enough fuck you. Made in the U.S.A us to mean something!

[hippietim]

I love when someone brings in some cheap Made in China electronics to our shop for repair. I like to jack with people, and I can't tell you how many times I've said this..
"Here is your problem". When they look at me and ask "what"? I show them the Made in China label on the unit.:ROTF::ROTF::ROTF:

After I get done laughing and they ask me if I can fix it, I tell them i'd like
to, but since arson is illegal, I can't torch the local Wal Mart.
Maybe one of them will take it on as a DIY project.......

Ok, that's post of the day so far.

[hippietim]

Walmart has put alot of small buisness owners outta buisness!

Those fucking small businesses were trying to provide unique goods and services. We can't have that. Next you're going to try and tell me that individuals are important. Sheesh.

Long live WalMart!

[Flametop]

I love when someone brings in some cheap Made in China electronics to our shop for repair. I like to jack with people, and I can't tell you how many times I've said this..
"Here is your problem". When they look at me and ask "what"? I show them the Made in China label on the unit.:ROTF::ROTF::ROTF:

After I get done laughing and they ask me if I can fix it, I tell them i'd like
to, but since arson is illegal, I can't torch the local Wal Mart.
Maybe one of them will take it on as a DIY project.......

[hippietim]

Asia will be tapped soon enough. Africa is where it's at next.

[john.w.lawson]

Walmart has put alot of small buisness owners outta buisness!