What a bitch

[AK47]

no she did not do anyone a favor... she gave money to fucking dumbasses who are a part of the reason why the country is in such a state

locals can't kill? no one owns the animals... or are you saying that the animals are controlled by a criminal organization who chooses who can kill or not... perfect way to contribute to those douchebags

If you knew the history of Rhodesia, I mean Zimbabwe you would know the real criminals are Mugabe and the government itself which controls everything. It just like in the USA if there are wild Buffalos by my house and I hunt one without a permit because I am hungry the .gov will prosecute me.

Endrik this world is a hostile unfriendly place. It may seam this woman is fucked up for doing this and that but the reality of the situation is she did a little good for that part of the world when she paid to hunt the elephant there, those people could have starved waiting for Muagbe to die because her way was not viewed as the right way by someone like you who is not even from there.

TIA.

[SEEGERMANY]

You will eat plants, bark off trees, insects, worms and etc when survival is the only option.

It's all about the OKRA!

[horns666]

I was gonna type something extremely profound...but I gotta poop!!!

[Endrik]

If you knew the history of Rhodesia, I mean Zimbabwe you would know the real criminals are Mugabe and the government itself which controls everything. It just like in the USA if there are wild Buffalos by my house and I hunt one without a permit because I am hungry the .gov will prosecute me.

Endrik this world is a hostile unfriendly place. It may seam this woman is fucked up for doing this and that but the reality of the situation is she did a little good for that part of the world when she paid to hunt the elephant there, those people could have starved waiting for Muagbe to die because her way was not viewed as the right way by someone like you who is not even from there.

TIA.

Every time I open a Tv I see that there is something about Mugabe or his fellow mates in Africa.
Do you know how many guerilla forces there are who are just as bad if not even worse compared to the government. Those assholes run businesses like that "hey stupid tourist, come kill an elephant for 50K so we can buy even more guns and kill even more people"
Africa has more scams and monkey business going on than anywhere else in the world. Supporting such fishy businesses is supporting future wars/massacres/slavery etc. You cannot trust anyone with that kind of a business over there. The people who really need help are not doing things like that. They are somewhere desperately trying to find food for their family.
That bitch could care less if the locals get feed or not. SHE PAID TO KILL AN ENDANGERED ANIMAL BECAUSE OF A BET. That's retarded period. By the way did she suddenly ran out of arrows to kill the animal correctly? What a dumb cunt.

You can not support the locals who need help when you give the money to those who don't give a shit about them. It's the same shit that's happening in Burma. American and British tourists are scammed into "government supported tourist trips and programs". And because of that all the money goes into government which keeps terrorizing the people (slavery/genocide etc.)
That's the same kind of crap like all the celebrity aids.
Using fishy middlemen wont do any good except for those who are in power.

If that bitch really wants to help, she would bring food directly to the villagers.

[Endrik]

Yep, when real survival is the only option/reality you will do things you never thought you would do.
You will eat plants, bark off trees, insects, worms and etc when survival is the only option.

A really good point!!!

We eat meat because it's delicious but it's nutritional value isn't all that great.
You don't have to eat meat to survive. You'd last 20 times longer if you'd eat fuggin grass even though it's disgusting.

In some areas the only meat you can get is from a warthog. It's disgusting, specially without advanced cooking methods. But there's tons of bugs around with a lot of protein content. Besides some of them taste great when grilled, yummy

[Shawn Lutz]

20 times longer? Is that a scientific fact? So you are saying if I go eat my grass instead of mow it (and smoke the other kind) I'll live until I'm 1500 yrs old? ...shit sign me up for that.

[SEEGERMANY]

20 times longer? Is that a scientific fact? So you are saying if I go eat my grass instead of mow it (and smoke the other kind) I'll live until I'm 1500 yrs old? ...shit sign me up for that.

Shawn, that only works if you eat St. Augustine grass Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. On Tuesdays and Thursdays, you have to switch to Bermuda grass. On weekends, you can splurge with a combination of Zoysia and Centipede.

However, for this program to work, you must smoke weed 24/7.

[Endrik]

20 times longer? Is that a scientific fact? So you are saying if I go eat my grass instead of mow it (and smoke the other kind) I'll live until I'm 1500 yrs old? ...shit sign me up for that.

if you smoke it... you'd probably live forever

but seriously... if you only eat meat... you'll die pretty soon
glucose is the most important thing for an organism... so if you'd had a choice to only eat one thing... the best choice would be grapes because of a high glucose content... you'll live for a long time.
Now grass, trees, plants whatever are half cellulose and cellulose consists of glucose molecules.
So if you happen to be on a deserted island and there's no fruit and animals... you better start eating some wood :ROTF:

[hippietim]

Hunting for sport is pathetic and the people that do it are filthy pieces of shit.

And can someone please explain to me how the fuck it is a sport? You've got a serious weapon of some sort and you shoot a confused and/or scared and/or defenseless animal. That's a sport? Please. You want to make it a sport, do it without weapons.

This is just mindless slaughter.

All that talk about feeding the locals or some other poachers would do it anyhow is purely self-serving bullshit.

[hippietim]

I'm with AK and to a lesser extent, Newc, on this one. You Elephant-lovers in this thread should channel some of your vitriol to, oh, let's say the pro-abortion folks.

Ron, you have jumped the shark.

[john.w.lawson]

I hunt rattlesnakes with a stick or snake hook,no tongs.

[SEEGERMANY]

Hunting for sport is pathetic and the people that do it are filthy pieces of shit.

Does this mean you've taken me off your Christmas Card list?

[john.w.lawson]

Hunting for sport is pathetic and the people that do it are filthy pieces of shit.

And can someone please explain to me how the fuck it is a sport? You've got a serious weapon of some sort and you shoot a confused and/or scared and/or defenseless animal. That's a sport? Please. You want to make it a sport, do it without weapons.

This is just mindless slaughter.

All that talk about feeding the locals or some other poachers would do it anyhow is purely self-serving bullshit.

I killed a turkey with a pitch fork last year.through it spear style hunting with a bow is hunting,grab one and go after some white tails....I just dont like the taste of them or I would hunt them,and I gen dont kill rattlers well sometimes ,but not for sport,I prefer to send them to animal lovers for sport:ROTF:

[Endrik]

FYI, mammals that eat only grass and plants do not live a longer life. The lack of protein causes their teeth to break and fall out and their bones to break easily. If you ate grass, you might live for a month, which is about the amount of time the average person can live without food, anyway. You could even eat rabbit, which is low in fat and high in protein, and you would end up dying.

huh :think:

why do you even compare different species?

btw. do you even know why most carnivores eat mostly fresh herbivore meat? guess what the herbivores have in their organism more than the carnivores?... glucose. And btw. they don't eat only fillets but other components too which aren't only meat.
Your body can't produce cells without it. No one said you are going to be like Arnie in '73 but at least it keeps your basic functions going for longer than with other crap. Some sort of protein would be ok too because some have a high amino acid and glucose content etc. In meat/fat it's way lower.

btw. do you know that in some prisons (mostly isolated places, similar to Devil's Island) they used to feed ONLY meat to those who were sentenced to death so they would die really quickly.

As far as elephants not attacking people, take a break from the forum and watch some Discovery Channel. They will FUCKING kill you. They are pack-oriented like wolves. You mess with one of them and they will all come after you. I don't know where you are getting your nutrients facts from. If it is a book, make sure to pack it in your backpack when you go out into the wild. You will need some kind of firestarter. Bugs and plants will suffice for DAYS, not a lifetime.

Disney has sucked ass a couple of decades.

Who said that the elephants wont attack you if you get into their face????
BTW. why would you do it in the first place? I wont go hug a big angry dog... I wouldn't even think about doing it do an elephant.

Next time I go into the wild I hope I wont meet anyone who hasn't passed 8th grade biology... no I take that back... maybe someone like that would eat my shit because it looks like meat

[Soap]

Yep, when real survival is the only option/reality you will do things you never thought you would do.
You will eat plants, bark off trees, insects, worms and etc when survival is the only option.

My previous comment as seen above was intended to help some some understand the obvious. You will do what you never thought you would do when survival is the only option.

Once basic training is complete, they come and get you blind fold you and take you and this is the beginning of a week and a half to two week scenario that literally changes your life. Its a definitive time. You will learn what your made of and others around you will know too.

If you get captured it will be noted, if you quit (don't finish) it will be noted, and if you complete the training it will be noted as well.

You are put in this scenario with no food, no phone, no paper or writing material, no weapons just the fatigues you have on and that's it.
Nothing is scripted like see on television or the internet.
This is the real deal and the real deal like this wouldn't make television, too graphic.

They pair you up and give you a head start and that begins an experience as it progresses that defines you.

They whip and physically beat you, interrogate you, this I will speak no more of. The don't hit you in the head but every place else is okay.
The beatings are real they don't hold nothing back when hitting you.

While being hunted, You ration... fill your pockets full of plants (leafy green plants), roots of plants, (loaded with juice to sustain you) sticks, bark,(chew on it this also helps create juice to keep your mouth from getting dry in the heat of the day).

You smell awful caused you pissed on yourself and no time for a bath or shower, none in the deep woods anyway. When you do come to water hole (it's a swamp) getting a drink and jumping in isn't advised. Snakes and gators live in swamps so survival continues even in places you would like to take advantage of for a break and rest. The nights aren't recreational, it's survival in the night like it is during the day. There are things that live only at night and they aren't friendly.

No breaks, no time to rest, and when you see your running low on the things you are rationing to sustain and preserve you and your in a place/s where nothing is eatable.
Quess what? You eat dirt. No you don't shove a mouthful of dirt in your mouth, small tiny bites. Mouthful, you'll puke it up.

Stout muscular men the kind you wouldn't expect crying like babies after a week in the woods, peeing on themselves, stinking, hungry. After awhile your mind starts playing tricks on you, you wonder if this is a training or real? You wonder if you will live through this. You wonder if you will ever see your family again.

Your vulnurable, your mind is working over time and you have to remain focused or you will break/snap. You think of things you never have thought of before because your put in an evironment a situation thats stretching you beyond your limits and this isn't fear factor this is real life.
Its unbelievable what you will think and do to survive.
The unthinkable becomes reality.

Survival? Not deciding between which animal I'll hunt and track down and return home to a loving family and a cozy bed.
When there are no other options only survival, whether its at the hand of a paid skilled tracker and hunter or ones self, you will do things you never thought you would do. It happens every day among our police officers, fireman's, military and even in other countries where citizens are poverty stricken and not by their choice.