reclaimed holiday entitlement?

[wilkinsi]

OK, my job sucks ass, I'm wanting out before it gets any worse.

As soon as I find something else (or even if I do get canned), it's said (on places I found thru google) that if you leave before the end of the year but have already used up the whole year's holiday entitlement, then your employer can screw that holiday pay out of your last monthly (or weekly) wages before it even gets to your bank. BUT, if you walk out BEFORE they can screw outta your wages, is there a way to cancel any BACS instruction between your ex-employer and bank? I don't fancy having to repay approx two thirds of my normal salary (before income tax/N.I contributions that is) to these pigarses and not survive.

[Spivonious]

It all depends on the company's policy (at least over here). Personally, I earn 1 sick day per quarter and 1 vacation day per month (up to 10 max for the year). If I would take 4 sick days in the first month of the year and then quit, they have the right to subtract 3 of those from my final paycheck, since I technically hadn't earned them yet. If I had taken 5 days of vacation too, they would take back 3 of those days.

It all depends when you actually "earn" your paid time-off.

Of course, if you get fired, you don't have to pay anything back.

[wilkinsi]

Really?? Maybe I should go slap a big turd on the manager's desk then! No, I'll try to find something else first.

Shit, is that all the leave you get?? My annual entitlement is 25 days a year, though I have been there 6 years and 8 months. But the entitelement runs from 1st Jan-31st Dec.

I was under the impression that since it's only the 7th month and I've used up all 12 months' worth entitlement, if I resign or am sacked, then I'd have thought they could claim it back unless I find a way to cancel the bank's instruction to do with accepting credits/debits to/from both parties. I suppose one way would be to withdraw as much cash out the account asap before the employer could claim it back. I'm not sure how quckly the employer would be able to do so, or whether either of them would be able to pilfer from my next employer's salary. I'm wondering if I should set up another bank account and use that for my next employer.

I'm also concerned about my P45 and my pension. The employer doesn't have my current address. Going into a new job without a P45 means 40% tax on my earnings. Likewise, I'm not sure what happens to my pension if I leave/get canned.

[Rsmacker]

You are right about the P45, if you are a cunt, they will just let it sit on their desk until you get fucked off with paying Emergency Tax.

The bank will be fine if you write to them and tell them to cancel your previous arrangement, I doubt your employer would try to take anything from your account unless you already have that arrangement. Even if you strip your account, the bank may let the money go through so all of a sudden you have an unauthorised overdraft - result, shite credit score, bank wins.

Generally the employer won't piss about trying to get holiday entitlement from you, once you tell them you are off they will take your pass, escort you from the premises and wash their hands of you. I mean, no offence old bean, but you aren't exactly one of their top execs being headhunted by some top City hotshot firm are you? You are Rosemary, the Telephone Operator at Bell-End Insurance Co.

They couldn't give a flying fuck about the £300 you may or may not owe them. They will be just glad not to have to empty the Man-pon bin beside your desk every day. Hurry up, there's a nice Indian man who wants your headset.

Anyway, does this mean you are now going to be my personal fuck-Gimp all day, reclining on a little Ottoman in a studded thong, glistening with oil and eating grapes. Then when Daddy gets home...........ooooOOOOOoooooo-oooooooh!

Or are you going to let me pimp you out, become one of my street hos? I gonna gets me a biiiiig floppy hat and a walking stick. And a 14 litre Caddillac. With tiger-print seat covers.
Yeah baby, you better have ma money. Not some of it. Not most of it. ALL of my money bitch.

(I do have to warn you that you might have extended periods of inactivity. Not everyone is as um, "different" as me, they might not all jump at the chance of humping you in your PVC nurse outfit. I'm special, you are spe-shul, other people actually have some standards.)

Anyway, there's no way your Mum is gonna let you stay at home all day eating Pringles and wanking off whilst watching This Morning or Going For Gold. (She'll want you out the way whilst I give her a portion of special sauce.)

God, I can't wait, we are gonna have so much fun together, it's gonna be great!!!

[joelayres]

Holy cow - you still pissing and moaning about this job or that job? Seems that every job you get sucks worse than the last and there is always a conspiracy to screw you about. Here's a thought - maybe it's YOU. Most people are grateful to be working at this point in time. Get over yourself and learn how to get along with people - life gets much easier when you do that.

[Gartron]

Holy cow - you still pissing and moaning about this job or that job? Seems that every job you get sucks worse than the last and there is always a conspiracy to screw you about. Here's a thought - maybe it's YOU. Most people are grateful to be working at this point in time. Get over yourself and learn how to get along with people - life gets much easier when you do that.

Oh dear ..I think you've just rattled the gator's cage with that one

Wikinski's work shenanigans are one of the ongoing JCF soap opera's that keep this place interesting

[Spivonious]

After 5 years I get one additional day per year. Not the greatest deal, but not too uncommon over here. It's well-known that europeans/britons get lots of vacation. Doesn't France get the whole month of August off?

[Rsmacker]

Only if there's a war on.

[Jayster]

After 5 years I get one additional day per year. Not the greatest deal, but not too uncommon over here. It's well-known that europeans/britons get lots of vacation. Doesn't France get the whole month of August off?

@5 years, I received another paid week off(bringing the total to 4). I read somewhere that the French generally work a 30 hour work week, I don't know if it's true ~ but, that would be OK by me

[wilkinsi]

Holy cow - you still pissing and moaning about this job or that job? Seems that every job you get sucks worse than the last and there is always a conspiracy to screw you about. Here's a thought - maybe it's YOU. Most people are grateful to be working at this point in time. Get over yourself and learn how to get along with people - life gets much easier when you do that.

I'm not whinging about the job, I'm just trying to find the best way out. READ!!!!! And no, I'm not related to Blazer

[Gartron]

One other thing Wilky..if they pay you money that you think you may not be entitled to wait a few months before spending it

One mob I worked for paid me a months salary after I left (I left at the end of the month about a week before pay day) they paid me..I thought that must be my final payment and happily spunked it away

month later got a letter saying pay it back, told them to fuck off

two months later got a letter from a debt recovery company and then had to find the cash...just be careful.

[wilkinsi]

One other thing Wilky..if they pay you money that you think you may not be entitled to wait a few months before spending it

One mob I worked for paid me a months salary after I left (I left at the end of the month about a week before pay day) they paid me..I thought that must be my final payment and happily spunked it away

month later got a letter saying pay it back, told them to fuck off

two months later got a letter from a debt recovery company and then had to find the cash...just be careful.

The current employer doesn't have my current address Neither do the bank. So the debt recovery people can fuck off too.

I'm not gonna just walk out of the job, I'll make sure I find something else first. If they do fire me before I can, tough. I've saved enough cash to survive a couple months, just wanting to make sure it doesn't get pulled from my bank. It's a savers account anyway, so there won't be an unauthorised overdraft.

One other question: Would a P60 or even my last payslip to my next employer help avert emergency tax?

[Cygnus X1]

The current employer doesn't have my current address Neither do the bank. So the debt recovery people can fuck off too.

I'm not gonna just walk out of the job, I'll make sure I find something else first. If they do fire me before I can, tough. I've saved enough cash to survive a couple months, just wanting to make sure it doesn't get pulled from my bank. It's a savers account anyway, so there won't be an unauthorised overdraft.

One other question: Would a P60 or even my last payslip to my next employer help avert emergency tax?

Sing along with me...
"I, I, I
Me, me ,me
I'm the most important nobody that I see, see, see!

Fugg all of them, it's
I, I, I...
me, me, me.

Why does the boss make so much money?
He must be a suckass,
not like people like...
I, I, I
Me, me, me.

I'm the Most Important
Nobody!"

Same story, all of the time.
Man up, Wilk, someone MUST have taught you somewhere that it takes a team to move forward!
It isn't all about you.

Edit, alright, that was a bit harsh.
Just going by posts I've seen in the past.
Maybe if you didn't play the victim then employers would be more sympathetic.
Jes' sayin'...

[Rsmacker]

two months later got a letter from a debt recovery company and then had to find the cash...just be careful.

That's where you went wrong, you should have told them to suck your balls too. Until someone comes to me with a County Court Judgement they can stick their finger up their own furry hoop. (Even then they can stick it, he he)

[Rsmacker]

One other question: Would a P60 or even my last payslip to my next employer help avert emergency tax?

No.

Is this the new employer who will be giving you a job after asking for a reference from the current employer?
You should just go in on Monday, smile nicely and hand in your notice. No problem, no fuss, I dare say they won't say anything. They might not even want you to work your notice and tell you fuck off right away. There's loads of jobs for you, Nottingham has several McDonalds/Burger King and public toilets that need cleaning (they won't tolerate you mixing business with pleasure though)

You can have a great tearful leaving party, just you and Boy Bukkake from the booth next door. (Do you have a Glory Hole between you?) Or you could put up a poster in the staff canteen - "Party! The Sexual Predator is Leaving! Feel free to bring cakes, booze and polaroids of your snatch. Or arsehole."