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  • #46
    Originally posted by ~K~ View Post
    Several weeks ago the Vatican announced that they had proven the bones they had were St Peters and they know this because of carbon dating. Suddenly in this form it became reliable in their eyes for THIS use.
    That's my big issue. They contradict themselves so much it begins to make even less sense. They view everything that contradicts them as evil until it actually helps them then all of a sudden it's good.
    "Dear Dr. Bill,
    I work with a woman who is about 5 feet tall and weighs close to 450 pounds and has more facial hair than ZZ Top." - Jack The Riffer

    "OK, we can both have Ben..joint custody. I'll have him on the weekends. We could go out in my Cobra and give people the finger..weather permitting of course.." -Bill Z. Bub

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    • #47
      Originally posted by ~K~ View Post
      I'm on a board where there are some serious bible followers. They do believe the bible is a literal historical document and the stories did happen as written. The believe the earth is only 4000-6000 years old. The explain Dinosaur fossils as the work of the devil to cloud your judgment. When the subject of carbon dating came up they said that carbon dating is not reliable and doesn't work.

      Several weeks ago the Vatican announced that they had proven the bones they had were St Peters and they know this because of carbon dating. Suddenly in this form it became reliable in their eyes for THIS use.
      The Vatican and Catholics are totally different than "Christians". I went to Catholic schools my whole life and they taught us evolution and bible teachings as well. The science based classes had nothing to with the bible and vice versa.

      The Young Earth movement is more a Baptist or a Evangelical Christian thing that comes from the Bible belt.

      I am Catholic and every Catholic I know does not believe in the Young Earth movement. Part of that reason is Catholic schools are very prestigious as a way for your child to get on the right path to college especially a IV league. If they taught Young Earth they would be laughed out of the whole higher education community and lots of angry parents would pull their kids out of the schools so fast that heads would spin.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Ben... View Post
        That's my big issue. They contradict themselves so much it begins to make even less sense. They view everything that contradicts them as evil until it actually helps them then all of a sudden it's good.
        The majority of Catholics i know don't question the validity of carbon dating including myself (a catholic). my education was in a catholic school were science was not twinged by religion.

        The only people who i have met who didn't believe in it offered me the reason that "the great flood messed everything up"
        the mainstream catholic church and other more fundemental churches have very conflicting views when it comes to these matters. all christians shouldnt be grouped together.

        edit: just saw AK had posted the same time as me
        Last edited by Super_shredder; 07-14-2009, 05:19 PM.
        Say, I smell bacon.Does anyone else smell bacon?
        Yeah, I definitely smell a pork product of some type.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Ben... View Post
          That's my big issue. They contradict themselves so much it begins to make even less sense. They view everything that contradicts them as evil until it actually helps them then all of a sudden it's good.
          Jesuits and Catholics do not embrace the Young Earth theory, they have to be take seriously by the higher education community because of the large number of schools run by both sects.

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          • #50
            Ak's right,
            I'm catholic and I went to an "IV" League school for a couple of decades, I just graduated about 14 months ago-lol
            Not helping the situation since 1965!

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            • #51
              Originally posted by atomic charvel guy View Post
              Ak's right,
              I'm catholic and I went to an "IV" League school for a couple of decades, I just graduated about 14 months ago-lol
              I guess that was a dope-fiend frueidian slip on my part.

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              • #52
                Catholics may not be young earthers, they just think it's cool to kill abortion doctors and send the pope to Africa to tell all the black people they'll burn in hell if they use condoms (never mind that little AIDS thing).

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                • #53
                  Early one morning in the spring of 1820, Joseph went to a secluded woods to ask God which church he should join. According to Joe.. while praying Joseph was visited by God and his son Jesus Christ. He was told not to join any of the church. So he made up his own bullcrap.

                  Fuck I could do that!!!

                  Hmmmm, I think I did with God's glory hole theory..:think:
                  "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
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                  "Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.

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                  • #54
                    tbh im flirting with the idea of solipsism at the moment . try having a religious debate with me when my answer will be

                    "well as you are a figment of my imagination your argument is invalid"
                    "no im not!"
                    "prove to me that you exist" ect etc etc

                    its a good way to kill a couple of hours
                    Say, I smell bacon.Does anyone else smell bacon?
                    Yeah, I definitely smell a pork product of some type.

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                    • #55
                      OH, That's not Joe (Toejam)..That was Joeseph Smith founder of the church of latter day saints. The book of Mormon, which I believe Toejam is a card carrying member of..
                      "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
                      Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!

                      "Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Super_shredder View Post
                        tbh im flirting with the idea of solipsism at the moment . try having a religious debate with me when my answer will be

                        "well as you are a argument is invalid"
                        "no im not!"
                        "prove to me that you exist" ect etc etc

                        its a good way to kill a couple of hours

                        EASY, I'd kick you in the nads then say. "I didn't do that..I'm figment of your imagination"
                        "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
                        Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!

                        "Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.

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                        • #57
                          I would then thankyou (through tears and in a high pitched voice) without me imagining pain i couldnt imagine pleasure.
                          Say, I smell bacon.Does anyone else smell bacon?
                          Yeah, I definitely smell a pork product of some type.

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                          • #58
                            Ben, you are my best friend!
                            I practically live to disprove anything religious, so opposing that shit is a pastime I truly enjoy. If ya need some assistance, check out these peeps on youtube: Thunderf00t, Donexodus2, Patcondell, FactvsReligion and TheAmazingAtheist (hundreds of his vids got removed untill further notice though)
                            Seeing these disprove creationists is fun times had by all! It may get so ridiculous you won't believe the idiocy. Your school seems like really small potatoes compared to some stuff you'll see get disproved, such as contradicting water/ice canopy, fossilisation bullshit, the grand canyon being formed in 5 minutes, probability, abiogenesis, mutation (even to say not one beneficial muation has been observed...ever), differentiation, false-PhD-fraudsetrs-presently-in-jail not knowing the difference between base pairs/genes/alleles/amino acids, retarderd 'logical' reasoning and even more. It'll blow your mind, mate.
                            Its all fun and games till you get yogurt in your eye.; -AK47
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Dred View Post
                              Ben, you are my best friend!
                              I practically live to disprove anything religious, so opposing that shit is a pastime I truly enjoy. If ya need some assistance, check out these peeps on youtube: Thunderf00t, Donexodus2, Patcondell, FactvsReligion and TheAmazingAtheist (hundreds of his vids got removed untill further notice though)
                              Seeing these disprove creationists is fun times had by all! It may get so ridiculous you won't believe the idiocy. Your school seems like really small potatoes compared to some stuff you'll see get disproved, such as contradicting water/ice canopy, fossilisation bullshit, the grand canyon being formed in 5 minutes, probability, abiogenesis, mutation (even to say not one beneficial muation has been observed...ever), differentiation, false-PhD-fraudsetrs-presently-in-jail not knowing the difference between base pairs/genes/alleles/amino acids, retarderd 'logical' reasoning and even more. It'll blow your mind, mate.
                              I shall investigate.
                              "Dear Dr. Bill,
                              I work with a woman who is about 5 feet tall and weighs close to 450 pounds and has more facial hair than ZZ Top." - Jack The Riffer

                              "OK, we can both have Ben..joint custody. I'll have him on the weekends. We could go out in my Cobra and give people the finger..weather permitting of course.." -Bill Z. Bub

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Super_shredder View Post
                                I would then thankyou (through tears and in a high pitched voice) without me imagining pain i couldnt imagine pleasure.
                                This is true. This is called "The Ying and Yang Ball Dang" ceremony!! Practiced by Tibetan Monks!!! I know, I was a member, but they kicked me out because I always wore my "Bobby the Beef Puppet" shorts. That really fucked with their focus. Therefore, they always accused me of cockblocking their Zen..Yeah, like anyone has ever been there without a hit of A!

                                You can't have good without evil, pain without pleasure, and all that balance sorta shit..
                                "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
                                Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!

                                "Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.

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