Patience, I am out. Ebay rant...LONG winded..sorry.

[guitarsjb]

Ok, the saga of this transaction is not over, but it should have been DAYS ago.

I sold my RR1. Now, right before this guy won it, I sent a message (through ebay) saying hi and that kind of goofy stuff to open a communication channel. Get some kind of contact going. No answer. He wins the auction. Fine. I wait a day..no payment. I didn't send an invoice immediately because when I am bidding on something, I'm usually keeping an eye on it, and know when I've won it and pay as soon as I know.

The next day, no payment..I send an invoice. Keeping in mind..he might be away from the computer or whatever..I'm willing to give it a bit of time. Not much, but a bit. Did that...that was Saturday...auction ended on Thursday. Saturday afternoon, I get a message for an invoice. Well, I already sent one..so I send another. Well, I screw up on the 2nd invoice and actually it's for double the amount. (My fault) Crap! I send a message saying I fucked up, just pay the amount of the first one, then thinking he didn't get that one, clarified the amount.

No reply..no nothing...Sunday, I send a message to him (all of this is through ebay) asking when I can expect payment. Now I'm getting a bit frustrated. Again, no reply, no payment.

Well, today is Monday. The auction ended Thursday. I know my 2nd invoice was a mess, but still expected payment off of the first (correct one). By this time I have sent like 6 messages/ 2 invoices and NO REPLY except the first one asking for an invoice AFTER I had sent one.

So...in his request for an invoice, he sent his name/shipping address. I google it..find him on facebook. Not knowing if this is the correct man, I send a message full of apologies for bothering him if he's not the guy yada yada just trying to see what's going on and where my payment is.

Well, it's the right guy. He's a bit put out that I tracked him down through facebook. Told him I wouldn't have if he would have bothered to answer ONE damn message. So...then he tells me I over invoiced him, and he's reported me to ebay. WTF...why not just ask me what the problem is. So then he says he never got any message, wants the guitar..tried to pay me, but the invoice kept bringing up the wrong amount. We sent a few messages back and forth through facebook, I thought everything was cool. He says re-invoice him and he will pay me. I do ....he don't....

How can he get my invoices, but not my messages?? Not making sense. My spidey sense is tingling here...I've already told him he can bail on this anytime he wants and I'll just relist it. All of this is just strange.

[Grandturk]

I sense... user error. Probably on the dopey guys who can't pay for the auction he's just won.

[heartfielder]

Sounds like a buyer who didn't really expect to win the auction. Some people just like to raise their paddle, in a sense, but never really want to win an auction.

Tell him, no bullshit, pay up or you'll report him to Ebay !! Unfortunately he can leave you bad feedback but you can't leave it for him. Strange !!

[DonP]

How can he get my invoices, but not my messages??

email spam filter of some sort?

If I win an auction, I want to buy and I contact the seller. Sounds like he's not that hot for the guitar or something...

[bcrich1975]

I'm having the same problem! I just sold an RG770DX to someone on Ebay. The guy wins the auction on the 12th. He emailed me prior to placing his buy it now bid and asked if he could pay on Fri. the 14th. I said sure but no later. Well, it's the 18th now, three messages later, and no response what-so-ever. I'm patient too and I've worked out payment arrangements with people. I don't even mind if someone wins an auction and finds that they have to back out of it. Things happen. But to not have the decency to at least email me and say, hey, I can't follow through with the sale, pisses me off. I don't want to hear from this guy that he's not getting my messages because communication existed prior to the sale using Ebay's msg. system. I just shelled out a huge wad of money on a brand new SL2H so selling the Ibanez partially funded the Jackson. Needless to say, I need to be paid. I can file with the resolution center tomorrow but I think I'd rather just relist instead of dicking around waiting for this guy to get his act together. I've sold 40 or so guitars on Ebay in the past 2 years and never had a problem where I can't even get a response from an auction winner.
Guitarsjb: if you want, send me a p.m. I wonder if we're dealing with the same knucklehead?

[Vass]

I'd give it a few more days before getting too bent. Like you, I pay IMMEDIATELY as soon as I know I've won- Oftentimes it's within literally minutes of the win. I don't wait for invoices unless the auction specifically asks me to.

Having said that, you are in a good spot- The guitar is still in your hands. You are without question inconvenienced, but the chances of you getting hosed for big $$ is pretty low at this stage of the game.

Good luck. Was this one in the classifieds? I can't remember. EDIT- Guess I could decide to NOT be a lazy asshole & use the search function- Yes it was. A beauty.

[Spivonious]

The buyer is obviously avoiding paying for the item, but there's no eBay policy that says they have to have good communication or send the payment in a certain number of days. I believe he has 14 days to pay for the item.

Just keep all of the messages through Ebay's message system and they should rule in your favor, if it comes to that.

[bcrich1975]

Actually, the 770 I sold was never advertised on this site. I put it right on Ebay. It's a mint lazer blue model.
But anyway, I'm right there with you. If I buy something on Ebay (buy it now) I have it paid for within a minute. I don't dodge communication with buyers or sellers.
Like the saying goes: "If you can't pay, don't bid".

[Newc]

Vass was talking about Jeri's RR1, not yer Ibanez.

I've had trouble with Ebay's message system not coming through, but not in the last 5 years. My ISP's server was somehow combining emails, so I'd have 6 or more emails crammed into one, but only the first one was readable. The others could only be seen by viewing the Message Source.
Anyhoo, could be the same issue, a similar issue (i.e. not in his control and he's unaware of it), or the guy could be a douche.

[guitarsjb]

Well, I think we got it all straightened out now. Anyhow he paid for it. I really don't think he's being an ass about it, he may not have gotten the messages for all I know. It was just frustrating.

Yeah, I had it in the classifieds here too.

[Rsmacker]

He's a bit put out that I tracked him down through facebook. .

He's obviously a fucking Grade A twat. That's what happens when you put all your personal info online for everyone to see, when you act like a bell-end on E-bay, you get tracked down and pulled up about it.

At least you've been paid, now how long before he starts bitching that the guitar isn't right........?

[guitarsjb]

He's obviously a fucking Grade A twat. That's what happens when you put all your personal info online for everyone to see, when you act like a bell-end on E-bay, you get tracked down and pulled up about it.

At least you've been paid, now how long before he starts bitching that the guitar isn't right........?

That remains to be seen...will cross that hurdle in a few days I suspect.