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Agree Bill. In a band situation what i have often thought and felt is,... as often as singer is the last guy that comes into the situation, that songs that have been written should be looked at as really just a template of ideas that are most likely subject to change when a vocalist comes in to write lyrics or create the melodies over them. If a vocalist is musically inclined and has a good ear and knack for writing, things would most definitely change in the song structure, at least a little. If they are actually musically talented they might bring a melody or vibe to the song that the other players wouldn't have thought of themselves, and songs can take on a whole other life of their own than first envisioned.
Being that in a traditional band the singer is the most important aspect and almost always the defining factor between Great, and everything else. A lot of guitarists, myself included, write for the riff, but it's important to keep in mind or be open to whatever you wrote should be entirely subject to change.
I more recently i've attempted to write riffs with vocal lines in mind from the start. It's quite a different challenge. So far what i've attempted has come out sounding sort of bland on it's own i think, unless you knew what the idea of the vocals sounded like over it.
It would be pretty cool to be a fly on the wall in the studio or practice room with like say,.. Iron Maiden. Where they have a super adept riff writing machine going, and then a super adept singer - and to see how much of the original ideas that were presented remain in the final version of a song.
Being that in a traditional band the singer is the most important aspect and almost always the defining factor between Great, and everything else. A lot of guitarists, myself included, write for the riff, but it's important to keep in mind or be open to whatever you wrote should be entirely subject to change.
I more recently i've attempted to write riffs with vocal lines in mind from the start. It's quite a different challenge. So far what i've attempted has come out sounding sort of bland on it's own i think, unless you knew what the idea of the vocals sounded like over it.
It would be pretty cool to be a fly on the wall in the studio or practice room with like say,.. Iron Maiden. Where they have a super adept riff writing machine going, and then a super adept singer - and to see how much of the original ideas that were presented remain in the final version of a song.
Makes me want to take all my guitars and just throw'em away and then sit down and rethink why I'm wasting my time dickin around with a geetar. LOL Keep rockin my man.
,, I would already have been sending out cash for the next wicked Axe I'm wanting built......errrrr....... one day
she is bad ass for sure.
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