more drum software problems

[the_drip]

These thigns sound gay....

I can program a steady monotonous beat..but goddamn programming any type of fill is just...shitty.


If anyone wants to take a stab at programming some drums with their fountain of computer/drum software knowledge I"d be glad to record the guitar Keyboard tracks.

Just let me know.

[Sunbane]

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I also have this problem. I've been avoiding drum fills for this very reason. Instead I try to use simple variations and random cymbal hits à la Entombed. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[DumpyWumpy]

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What programs are you guys using? The key to making realistic sounding drum fills is to use velocity maps and make sure that each hit isn't the same volume...For instance, in a simple snare-tom fill, you could accent the first hit on each drum and lower the volume on the rest of the hits. I use Fruityloops and FL makes it really easy to do this and things sound pretty realistic.

[Endrik]

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Frutiy Loops, the piano roll funktion should work kinda. Or make drums with guitar pro and transfer the MIDI to drum machine program when you can use your own samples, again Fruity Loops is great for this.
But the fact is that you can't never make real sounding rudiments, paradiddels, ghost note fills and whatnots with comuter.

[the_drip]

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eh...yeah...I'm just stupid at using these things..because Ic an't figure out what you guys are talkign about at all.


I'm goign to try using the drum sounds on my triton...see how that works. though that'll be gay too..playign drums on a keyboard. but at least it will be real time.

this button pushing bullshit is not for me. I want to just play the drum part to the song..and not think about the 4th quarter beat of beat 2 of measure 3. and scrollign down the drumkit list for the right drum or cymbal. it is horrendously stupid and un-musical IMO. It hought I could do it..but I give up. It drives me to crazy to sit and dot hat...must be the ADD.

[thetruthguy]

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Buy a drum set and learn to play the drums ... then mic 'em. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[the_drip]

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I'll let you know when I have time to do that between Teaching class from 8 to 4, grading papers, making lesson plans, giving private lessons and organizing the school pep band. I'm usually done with all that around 10 at night. So technically I'm putting in 14 hour days. Its great.

I teach music Kindergarden through High sschool, I'm the lone music teacher so I get to do general music, junior high choir and band, and both high school band and choir.


so yeah, Id on't have time to get my double kick drum chops up and all that. I already know basic drum rudiments and what not...but I don't have the skills necessary. I just know how to tell someone else how to do it.


These drum programs just make me more pissed off about our drummer pussing out on us. We had the studio booked fucking ingrate. ....now we're all split up all over the place...back to school, back to work. No time for anything.

the current location of my band members at this moment are

Shane- Denver
William- Cheney, WA
John- Seattle
Mike- Havre, MT
Me- Harlowton, MT

We had a studio booked and that faggot drummer quit on us a week before we were goign to go in. Now I"m stuck here trying to figure this shit out....recording ALL the song parts by myself...with a lackluster POS computer. And that faggot drummer was the one who said "hey we should go to a studio..blah blah blah...yeah that would be great!!" what a cocksucker.

ugh, I am frustrated. I might go on a serial drummer killing spree. They all deserve to die.

[Sunbane]

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I've been thinking of trying out one of these, but hmm... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I use Reason, and I don't think it was designed for "organic" music in the first place. Its drum machine doesn't use mapping. You can load one sample per channel and that's it. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[ripley156]

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I've been thinking of trying out one of these, but hmm... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]




Lol, that is awesome! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[the_drip]

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I"m just gonna look for a real drummer...I'll take anybody in the greater northwest America.


those clips on myspace aren't a good example of what we're doing with our msuic at all. It's like our songs at about 50 percent. And we're writing much mroe complex stuff. So this drum programming crap is just going to get worse.

so fuck it.

[ApeDosMil]

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There is nothing Unmusical about making a drum track just have to learn how to do it befour you knock it down [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[the_drip]

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I don't have the time.

I"m not saying its not making music...it jsut doesn't feel good doing it that way...it feels lame. Like someone above said..it doesn't sound "organic" and I can't stand that. I just need the real thing.


If I had the time to sit and tinker and play and actually figure out how to work the programs....yes It might be rewarding but at this point..its not.

[Emthrax]

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This is why I go "old school" and use ACID loops. Check them out if you're not familiar with them
(I use collections from Sony: Click Me )
They are royalty-free collections of loop-able sounds and drums... whatever you can think of... played by real musicians on real instruments recorded in qualtiy studios. Not MIDI. Very easy to drop into tracks, manipulate and easy to make complex drum tracks. Including frills.
I use the Mick Fleetwood collection quite a bit, very fun!

Hope that helps!

-Em

[Flametop]

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Not that my .02 floats much, but I have these and I think they are pretty damn good.
http://www.betamonkeymusic.com/Double_Bass_Mania.html

[the_drip]

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Thanks Em and Flametop....I'll look into this stuff.