Do you guys do this?

[Ace]

I think I must be one of the world's most sporadic rhythym guitar players. In the first song my band has, which I mainly wrote, I two-handed tap in three distinct places, often in the middle of a riff. I also have at least 10 distinct time changes, with upwards of twenty individual riffs. I have 17 fret slides, feedback sections, you name it. Speeds range from SLOW "Boris"-esque doom to Angelcorpse/Krisiun style blast riffs. That's just the first song. The second one we're doing has no-Boris style doom, but instead has a Mastodon style "power riff" and a blues-based intro. Am I off balance? Are people gonna say DUDEFUCKIN'HELLYEAH! or just DUDEWHATTHEFUCK?

[Shawn Lutz]

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I'd have to hear it to say for sure. My weakness is arranging, I want to throw it all in one song. I learned to keep the changes and structure to about 2-3 per song or I'd only have 2-3 really really long songs [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Fills and embillishments are their own thing, fit whatever ya can in there without losing the feel of the song.

[GodOfRhythm]

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If it's all linked in a meaningful and tasteful way, the more the better I'd say.

[Ace]

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You guys have to remember, I play death/grind. There is nothing tasteful about it. I like to think that it's meaningful though. But I don't use melodies in the traditional sense. I like to keep changing the music every few seconds. I want to keep people uneasy and on-edge with my songs, yet still have a connection to them. I for sure don't write music in keys or scales. I don't sit down and think "I am going to write a blues based jam in A". I CAN write a blues based jam in A, but that's been done. I like to think that I am at least trying to do something new. I'll post mp3's when we get something decent recorded, everything right now is on cassette and for band use only.

[xenophobe]

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Wow... Sounds like my type of band. Can't wait to hear your stuff Ace. [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]

[RacerX]

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I like to keep changing the music every few seconds. I want to keep people uneasy and on-edge with my songs, yet still have a connection to them.

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Well, Ace, you have ADD. Hopefully your audience doesn't. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] 17 riffs seems a bit much to me. Early Metallica tunes would have 4 or 5 different riffs in 'em. Maybe you can extend the riffs and turn that 1 song into 3. But what the hell do I know?

[Ace]

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While early Metallica was cool, I like to think that metal has evolved in the last 20 years. Cephalic Carnage, Disgorge and several other bands are notorious for using 20+ riffs in a song. And while my band is FAR from their caliber, that is one of the reasons that I really like those bands. I think music should be involved and dynamic. I'm not trying to start a bar band or play in a coffee shop where people can just tune me out and go about their business. I want people to get pissed off, stomp around, shove eachother and get plowed in a giant blood orgy in front of the stage while I breathe fire and spit Jack Daniels all over them with one foot on the monitor, a crazy look in my eyes, and playing the sickest metal anyone has ever heard.

[Emthrax]

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OKay Ace. You've had your turn. Can I have my pipe back now??? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

If you want to do 20+ riffs and switch time sigs every 12 bars and play in 4 keys and howl at the moon, go for it.

[guitarsjb]

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The title of this thread is "Do you guys do this?" My answer is NO, and I don't think I even know how to do that exactly...wow..would like to listen to it though. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[GodOfRhythm]

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20+ riffs is too much. You have to be a Mozart to make them link beautifully.

[xenophobe]

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Spawn of Possession, Necrophagist, Severed Savior, Psycroptic... umm... there are a lot of bands that do this quite successfully.

[RacerX]

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that do this quite successfully.

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That is debatable, as I've only heard of one of those bands! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[Ninja Guitar]

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What the hell exactly are these 17 fret slides you keep mentioning Ace? Why not 19 fret, or 5 fret?

[GodOfRhythm]

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Spawn of Possession, Necrophagist, Severed Savior, Psycroptic... umm... there are a lot of bands that do this quite successfully.

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You think so. I on the other hand don't feel much for Necrophagist or most other Death Metal bands.

[Disco Dave]

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There is a band on myspace that is just a guitar player and a drummer called Sleep Terror that do this kind of spasticness. Another band I know of that does this stuff that you can also hear on myspace is a band called PsyOpus. Its all really good stuff but this kind of music is def not about being linked together in a beautiful and relaxing way. I don't remember how to do short links with this quick reply thing or else I would post the links to the two bands mentioned early.