My last 7-string thread for a bit, also sweeping

[thetroy]

I finally ordered one, and when it gets here I need to learn how to play it. Anyone have any good ideas, tips, links, etc. for 7-string techniques. I'm most likely tuning AEADGBE. The main thing I want to focus on is really getting good with chords and rhythm playing to do jazz/fusion type stuff.

The other big thing I want to practice more is sweeping. I'd love to see any and all sweeping patterns you guys have for any amount of strings. The only patterns I have practiced so far go like this:

-----2-5-2
----3-----3
---2-------2
--4---------4
-5-----------5
--------------

2 octave major triad

-----3-7-3
----5-----5
---4-------4
--5---------5
-7-----------7
--------------

2 octave minor triad

---------12-15-12
-------14--------14
-----12------------12
---14----------------14
-16--------------------16
-------------------------

2 octave half-diminished triad

---2-5-2-----5-8-5-------8-11-8
--4-----4---7-----7----10------10
-5-------5-8-------8-11----------11-etc
----------------------------------
----------------------------------
----------------------------------

dimished scale a la Yngwie

[maddog]

Re: My last 7-string thread for a bit, also sweeping

That is a diminshed arpeggio!not scale! "now you've unleashed the F***in Fury!!". If you're looking for some interesting sweeping patterns you could check out Michael Lee Firkins "mastering lead guitar video"

[thetroy]

Re: My last 7-string thread for a bit, also sweeping

Well the diminished scale is just those 4 notes is it not?

[rps14a]

Re: My last 7-string thread for a bit, also sweeping

heres a bigger major (A) one to practice doing 2 strings on the same fret where you have to kinda roll your fingers.

--------------5-9h-5------------
------------5--------5----------
----------6------------6--------
--------7----------------7------
------7-------------------7-----
--5-9-----------------------9-5-

[maddog]

Re: My last 7-string thread for a bit, also sweeping

[ QUOTE ]
Well the diminished scale is just those 4 notes is it not?

[/ QUOTE ]

A diminished scale is constructed alternating between tones and semitones, or steps and halfsteps. Depending on how you wanna say it.

[noodlesatf]

Re: My last 7-string thread for a bit, also sweepi

I like constructing my own by playing around with a scale and finding interesting note choices. I have no clue if these have been done before or not, but they all come from the D-minor scale:

-----------------------------------------------------------13p12p10-12-12b-r(12)-10--------
---------------------11-13/15p13p12---------------------11--------------------------11-10~~
-7h9p7------------10----------------13---------------10------------------------------------
-------8-------10---------------------14/12-10----12---------------------------------------
---------10/12---------------------------------12------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

---------------13b-r(13)~-|-15p13p12----------13~-|-13p12p10----------10-12-13b~-
------------15------------|----------13----13-----|----------11----11------------
---------14---------------|-------------14--------|-------------12---------------
12h14/15------------------|-----------------------|------------------------------
--------------------------|-----------------------|------------------------------
--------------------------|-----------------------|------------------------------

I like mixing in slides and hammer-on/pull-offs in with sweeps, because they add a lot of flavor to solos. Marty Freidman was a big influence in this department. I also did this at work from memory, so I appologize for any screw-ups resulting from not having a guitar to test on.

[thetroy]

Re: My last 7-string thread for a bit, also sweepi

Looks exciting. I might give that stuff a couple of run-throughs at home tonight.

[pagemalicious]

Re: My last 7-string thread for a bit, also sweepi

------------------14-----------
---------------12--------------
------------11-----------------
---------12--------------------
-------9-----------------------
----10-------------------------
-12----------------------------

B minor 7 string arpeggio. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[jwoods986]

Re: My last 7-string thread for a bit, also sweepi

If you leave the low string a B, here's a FOUR octave B minor arpeggio:
-------------------------10-h14-t19p-14p-10-----------------
----------------------12--------------------12--------------
-------------------11--------------------------11-----------
----------------12--------------------------------12--------
---------5-9-14--------------------------------------14-9-5-
-----2-7----------------------------------------------------
-0-3--------------------------------------------------------

I can't keep going to the right to finish it up but you just go back down the same notes.

[kmanick]

Re: My last 7-string thread for a bit, also sweeping

[ QUOTE ]
That is a diminshed arpeggio!not scale! "now you've unleashed the F***in Fury!!". If you're looking for some interesting sweeping patterns you could check out Michael Lee Firkins "mastering lead guitar video"

[/ QUOTE ]

YES, his video shows some real cool sweeping with tapping on the e string (he does it real smoothly too)
the other sweeping video I recommend is Frank Gambale "Monster Licks" he shows a ton of shapes to sweep, all kinds of arpeggios, that one is real good [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]

[thetroy]

Re: My last 7-string thread for a bit, also sweeping

I think the 4 octave ones are going to sound insane when they're up to tempo. Mindless shredding here I come! Now I can't wait for that guitar to get here...

[Deneb]

Re: My last 7-string thread for a bit, also sweeping

The diminished scale is, whole, half, whole, half forever. Diminished chords repeat themselves every minor 3rd.

[pagemalicious]

Re: My last 7-string thread for a bit, also sweeping

and they sound evil [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]

[maddog]

Re: My last 7-string thread for a bit, also sweeping

Depending on how how you use em! Classical composers use them very subtely (spell check).

[diablomozart]

Re: My last 7-string thread for a bit, also sweeping

7-strings are fun to play with...lol... Glide ...d.m.