More Jazz III matters....

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Red or black? What's the difference and why do you prefer one or the other?

P.S. No, I'm not writing a book about this. I just can't seem to find any clear answers.

[Newc]

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The black ones are more like ABS plastic (like the Stubbies are made from) than Nylon, and the Reds are Nylon.

I used to use full-sized really thin picks because I was a hamfist, and I could swing it pretty quick. A friend of mine had some red Jazz IIIs and I tried one. Needless to say, it didn't work at first because of my picking style, but once I learned to let the pick do all the work instead of my wrist, I grew to love the Reds. The blacks were also Nylon at first, so there was no problem using either one, but they changed the black ones to a stiffer material in recent years and I personally don't like it as much as the red nylon.

The black ones feel like the same material that a Duncan pickup box is made of - really sharp in their attack. The reds feel slightly softer, like a trussrod cover.

[Newc]

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Dunlop refers to the black Jazz IIIs as being made of "Stiffo" Nylon.

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Thanks, Newc. That clears things up greatly. I've seen where a lot of players prefer red, but you're the first to explain why.

[DumpyWumpy]

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The black ones wear down fast as hell compared to the red ones as well...I've been using the same red one for 2 or 3 months and in 1 month I went through 2 or 3 of the black ones...Black ones are easier to grip though, but you get used to the feel of the red ones pretty quick and compensate for it...

[shredmonster]

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Agreed. I have always liked the red ones better but never knew why.

[Number Of The Priest]

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About a year or so ago, I bought one 6-pack of red nylon Jazz IIIs and one 6-pack of black stiffo Jazz IIIs with the intention of trying both out. I initially opened up the pack of black ones because to me they looked "cooler". [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] Needless to say that that very first black Jazz III is still with me today attacking my Shannon Soloist. It's indestructible.

I should really open the pack of red nylon ones and compare but I can't seem to get away from the black stiffo ones since they just work so well. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

I don't know, but I might have a psychological aversion towards nylon picks considering my very first guitar picks were those crappy Dunlop Nylon ones and those wore out very quickly. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[IrfaanSE801]

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I'm all about the black ones. I don't know that I ever compared them to the red ones (I own and play em both, just never gave it any thought), but I use the black ones more than the reds and love em.

[Thoraby]

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Yeah I got some of them jazz III's. I don't even like them that much, but I haven't found any better.

[MetalGrasshopper]

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Black ones...they grip better and after you wear down the tip, they glid up and down strings easily for sweeps.

[Cloud Strife]

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I use them both.. and I actually I don't really feel the difference..

[clifffclaven]

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you guys use regular jazz IIIs or the "jumbo" ones? I prefer the jumbo, I keep dropping the small ones, although I used to use them (90-91).

[KevinDguitar]

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you guys use regular jazz IIIs or the "jumbo" ones? I prefer the jumbo, I keep dropping the small ones, although I used to use them (90-91).

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I used to use the Jazz III's and small Stubbies, but 5 years ago I suffered a broken neck (c3 and c4), wasn't ever even supposed to walk again, much less play guitar..there was some residual nerve damage caused by the collapse of the spinal column..I had a hard time holding onto the small picks once I got up and playing again..I switched to the Sharp Dunlop tortex 1.5mm's and everything felt right as rain..no issues holding onto them.

[pagemalicious]

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I accidently bought a pack of reds over the internet, they seem to be holding up better than the blacks, but they have less grip, which is a pain

[Number Of The Priest]

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Grip can always be altered. Slash a few marks into the gripping area with a hobby knife. You'll probably end up roughing up the raised lettering that's on the Jazz IIIs and get better grip.