Do all guitarist cheat except for Al Dimeola?

[savage]

Push comes to shove, I hear the half step thing, pretty fusiony. I fail to see what's innovative about it. I never said he wasn't influential.

I guess I have to watch what I say on an EVH and RR fanboy forum, I'm sorry.

Actually i am not a fan boy of his
I prefer guys like gilmour,schon,gary moore,roth,schenker,may,lukather,gilbert,govan,
holdsworth,macalpine,
marino. and yes i love al dimeola as well, i have been into him for over 25 years now
I like guitar players that "speak" with thier leads
when i defended VH it was simply because the man was a great player and a MAJOR figure in guitar innovation and deserves some respect for that.

[GodOfRhythm]

when i defended VH it was simply because the man was a great player and a MAJOR figure in guitar popularization and deserves some respect for that.

Fixed.

I also love the instant 'namedropping' to certify your cred.

[savage]

Fixed.

I also love the instant 'namedropping' to certify your cred.

[Spivonious]

I agree with GoR. VH definitely caused a lot of people to pick up the guitar, but he didn't really do anything that others weren't already doing; he was just more popular.

[savage]

I agree with GoR. VH definitely caused a lot of people to pick up the guitar, but he didn't really do anything that others weren't already doing; he was just more popular.

I will agree with this for two reasons,
first i just got a charvel SD style 1 and
two i am in too good a mood to argue

[J_A / 540s]

Eddie gave us little. .

No offense intended whatsoever... But over the last 30 years or so I've never heard anyone say something like that who was actually on this planet & old enough to know what an electric guitar was before 1978.

Weather or not you love him, hate him, or just couldnt give a damn if he drove his 55 Chevy into a flaming volcano, there is nobody over the last 40 years or so who has changed the entire guitar industry let alone the music itself nearly as much... I'd almost go out on a limb & say the last individual who had as much influence on the entire industry might have been Les Paul.

[savage]

No offense intended whatsoever... But over the last 30 years or so I've never heard anyone say something like that who was actually on this planet & old enough to know what an electric guitar was before 1978.

Weather or not you love him, hate him, or just couldnt give a damn if he drove his 55 Chevy into a flaming volcano, there is nobody over the last 40 years or so who has changed the entire guitar industry let alone the music itself nearly as much... I'd almost go out on a limb & say the last individual who had as much influence on the entire industry might have been Les Paul.

I tried to tell him that in my own little way

[GodOfRhythm]

You guys need to go to school or some shit. Or at least figure out the meaning of 'non-sequitur'.

At what point did I refute VH's influence?

[J_A / 540s]

You guys need to go to school or some shit. Or at least figure out the meaning of 'non-sequitur'.

At what point did I refute VH's influence?

I know I'm reaching for the stars here but I suspect it was when you said
"He gave us little".

To me that implies you believe He did not give a lot. The conclusion I reached from that statement is that you just were not around while He did most of his giving.... & granted most of it was 25-30 years ago.

However I'll admit I only spent about 19 years in school so I might have completely misunderstood what you were trying to say....

[OnlineStageGear]

I see people bash VH all the time and say this guy is much better and yada yada, but untill that person has wrote an album like VH1, or most of the other VH albums for that matter, then wow can you say they they are better?

If you were too look in every guitarist's music collection, most would have a copy of VH1. Most of those are on thier 3rd or 4th copy because they have worn them out. How many other guitarists can you say that about ?

Matt

[GodOfRhythm]

I know I'm reaching for the stars here but I suspect it was when you said
"He gave us little".

To me that implies you believe He did not give a lot. The conclusion I reached from that statement is that you just were not around while He did most of his giving.... & granted most of it was 25-30 years ago.

However I'll admit I only spent about 19 years in school so I might have completely misunderstood what you were trying to say....

I never said he wasn't influential, I just said he wasn't really innovative.

[Trem]

well, i grew up on VH 123and 4, and he was so incredible at that time.
i don't think he's that great anymore, and his playing doesnt stand the test of time. Only album i own is Fair Warning my fav, and some boots.

I'll take yngwie any day of the week, and i think he changed rock guitar more than eddie over the last 25 years.

is it just me or didn't he pretty much blow away satch and via on G3?

[savage]

I'll take yngwie any day of the week, and i think he changed rock guitar more than eddie over the last 25 years.

is it just me or didn't he pretty much blow away satch and via on G3?

I cant say since YJM is so radically different from satch/vai
they are all great in my book

[Joe_Steeler]

I cant say since YJM is so radically different from satch/vai
they are all great in my book

Are you including CC Deville on that book as well?

[Balrog]

Are you including CC Deville on that book as well?

Looooong reach man. And since we're so far off the original topic of this thread anyway....might as well debate which is better, PC..or MAC?