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Originally posted by Jacksonguy666 View PostTrue, and looking back i realize mass was the wrong word choice
But just take what i mean at surface level, if you were to hook up both to a machine, the thinner and smaller tip would go faster, because there is less material to hit the strings. It's like comparing the point end of a pen to the blunt end, theres no comparison. But yea i TOTALLY get what you mean, and there could be another big debate about that as well.
I see what you mean, but still, it's kinda wrong. See, the thinner pick would flex, and therefore there would be far more play on the string than say, the 1.38mm Jazz III, therefore the string would spring later with the thinner pick. HOWEVER, that is a variable, because you can hold the pick closer to its tip, reducing the play. Also, there are other variables, such as material, the actual thickness, and most importantly, the power at which the pick is swung, among others. More power applied to say, a .48mm pick, will twist it more, whereas a Jazz II swung at the same power will not bend/twist as much (Barely any, if at all). Another thing is the angle at which the pick is held, and at which the string is hit. Angling on the thin picks reduces the amount the pick will bend, however the pick may not travel perpendiculary towards the string, and that will also affect how much it will bend.
All in all, even with all these variables taken, the Jazz III will not bend, the pick will spend a minimal amount of time in contact to the string, while a thinner pick will flex more, and how much, that depends on where the pick is held, its angle, material, etc. Having that in mind, the pick will not perform the same to what's expected of it, as often as the Jazz III, so you can't say its tip will perform in such and such a way compared to jazz three.
To say that the 'thinner and smaller tip would go faster, because there is less material to hit the strings' is kind of going against the statement you made first, that Jazz 3 will go faster than the thin pick (1.38 is generally accepted to be a heavy gauge, when gauges around .71 are what are called Mediums, most of the time). So really, they both go at the same speed, if the picking speed is the same (you contradicted yourself in that respect in your post), with more flex in the thinner tip, making you think you're picking slower. Mass, friction, shape of tip, none of that make your wrist/elbow move any quicker, it's the flex of the pick that dictates how much movement of your hand is required to pick the string properly, and range of motion isn't picking speed.Really, where I'm getting at is that I'm in a mood to bullshit today!
And just have.Last edited by Dred; 06-15-2009, 12:56 PM.Its all fun and games till you get yogurt in your eye.; -AK47
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Originally posted by horns666 View PostI love the stubby black ones with the red tip!
Stubby, black and red tipped. Sounds 'bout right!Its all fun and games till you get yogurt in your eye.; -AK47
Guitar is my first love, metal my second (wife...ehh she's in there somewhere). -Partial @ Marshall
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Originally posted by rjohnstone View PostBeen using them for years.
Regular picks make me feel like I'm playing with a dinner plate in my hand.
I totally agree from using Standard Tortex picks. Think I should switch to Jazz III's too?Jackson SL2H (nebula) '08
Gibson Les Paul Standard (ebony) '03
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The extra size of other picks seem pointless after you get use to Jazz IIIs."Dear Dr. Bill,
I work with a woman who is about 5 feet tall and weighs close to 450 pounds and has more facial hair than ZZ Top." - Jack The Riffer
"OK, we can both have Ben..joint custody. I'll have him on the weekends. We could go out in my Cobra and give people the finger..weather permitting of course.." -Bill Z. Bub
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I tried the Jazz III's once after others were raving about them, but uh no thanks! They're not for me. I'm sticking with my Tortex Purple or Green picks.Rudy
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Been using my Jazz III's for almost a year and a half. Switched from black ones to the black Tortex Jazz III's, they are a 1.14mm. Love them, best picks ever.Gibson SG Standard
Jackson DK2M Dinky
Silvertone S615 Acoustic from the 60's
Roland Micro Cube
Marshall MG100DFX
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Originally posted by rjohnstone View PostBeen using them for years.
Regular picks make me feel like I'm playing with a dinner plate in my hand.Member - National Sarcasm Society
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Originally posted by john.w.lawson View PostJim Dunlop U.S.A 1.0mm [Big Stubby] sharp edge,you can get a really scratchy sound...If you like? I like!Member - National Sarcasm Society
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Originally posted by Leo Chang View PostI've been using Big Stubby 3.0mm for a couple years too... those who have experience with both the Big Stubby and Jazz III.... how different are they?
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Damn, I'm now riding this thread like a $5.00 hooker. Thanks for the tip about the Jazz III Ultex, guys. I just went to Musician's Friend and ordered two 6-packs of them. They sound pretty cool.
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